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Dancing with the Stars Season 25, THE FINAL FINALE (Night 2) – LIVE BLOG

Well, it’s the finale. Time to sit through 2 hours of crap to find out who wins the shiny Mirror Ball trophy. Good luck to all the contestants.

One note – the person dancing last on Night 2 of the finale has won the MBT SEVEN of the last ten seasons.  I’m hoping the comments won’t become an ugly place tonight. None of these contestants deserve that.

Love the opening bit with Len. He’s so funny…and did I see a bit of swag.

Robert!! Yum. But producers…this show is NOT about Val and Maks, so spare me please.

Lindsey being a pep talker in the BTS footage. Frankie too, it appears.

Hey!! I want a sleigh!! How come Tom gets a sleigh?? Read more..

November 21, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

DWTS Season 25, The Finale – Dancing by the Numbers!

Well, the dance order from last night is interesting. It’s often instructive, but we won’t actually know until it’s all over.  But I’m surprised to see Lindsey going last. Perhaps it’s so close between Lindsey and Jordan that it makes no difference?  In any case, my sense after last week was that it was between Jordan and Frankie. Now I think it’s between Jordan and Lindsey.

There are fine reasons for any of the final three to win, and I remain much as I was last week in that I would be fine with any of them winning. There is an argument to be made for each, particularly when talking only about the celebrities. They all have pluses and minuses – and I have to say that I’m enjoying a finale where I’m not overly invested in any of the remaining couples.  At the end of the night, Lindsey’s is likely the only freestyle I will carry with me beyond tonight – playing her violin while doing all that dancing? Awesome. And before you cynical lot start – Lindsey is always highly mobile when playing. Not quite THAT mobile…but yes, I believe she was playing.

Another thing that I mentioned in the Live Blog – this is yet another season where the freestyles, while awesome, were not overly special. This is mainly due to the over use of the troupe during the whole season. It reduces the “standout” quality of a lot of the finale dances. Perhaps I watch too much DWTS, but there is something to be said for just two dancers – the pro and their partner – over the course of the whole season. Then, when you get to the end and want to use the troupe, it doesn’t seem like just another week. I suspect that we’re never going to get that aspect of DWTS back.

So, at the end of the night, where does everyone stand on the leaderboard? Much where I expected them to stand – Jordan and Lindsey tied with Frankie a couple points back.

Only four points between Frankie and Lindsey/Jordan. That will likely be enough but you just never know.

For Frankie to get second place, he needs to get roughly 13,000 more votes per million votes cast than either Lindsey or Jordan.

In order to win, Jordan OR Lindsey need for Frankie to NOT get that 13,000 more votes per million votes cast and one of them needs to get ONE more vote per millon votes cast than the other.

I feel like Jordan is going to win. Why? Who knows why, but that’s what my gut is saying.  Let’s break it down.

Factors in Jordan’s favor:

  • His pro has never won.
  • His pro has been killing it for a couple seasons now and has come up short.
  • He’s a great dancer.

Factors against Jordan:

  • His fanbase coming in to this show likely doesn’t stack up to either Frankie or Lindsey, who has 10 million youtube followers. That doesn’t usually count for much if they’re not voting, but they’re more than what Jordan has.
  • It seems like a lot of the audience isn’t connecting with him like they are Frankie.
  • He’s always been a great dancer.

What about Lindsey? What’s working in her favor?

  • She has a huge online fanbase.
  • Mark has the largest pro fanbase of the pros left in the competition.
  • I think her freestyle was most memorable.
  • It’s been so long since Mark won that the show isn’t even close to the same any more. 8 YEARS.
  • Great dancer, sweet personality

Factors working against Lindsey:

  • In spite of how long it’s been, Mark HAS won twice.
  • She had an off week last week.
  • Serious lack of PR compared to the other couples, but possibly due to her and Mark’s schedules.
  • More of a growth arc than Jordan, but still a great dancer coming in.

And then there’s Frankie. He shouldn’t be left out of the pros and cons – it is by no means a foregone conclusion that he’s not going to win or even come in second. I honestly don’t know. So, what’s working for him?

Factors working in Frankie’s favor? Well before the season started I would say only one – nostalgia. That is a big thing, though, when the DWTS fanbase averages 62 and female. But now that we’re at the finale?

  • It seems quite obvious that he’s a fan favorite in a more passionate way than either Jordan or Lindsey.
  • He’s had a real, tangible growth arc.
  • He’s a good dancer. The other two are as well, but they started out talented – and quite a bit younger as well.
  • Serious underdog. Women love an underdog.

Working against Frankie??

  • While good, he’s not the dancer the other two are.
  • 13,000 votes is quite a lot in the finale.
  • Freestyle didn’t have quite the bang that the other two did.

Any of the three could win, and I get the feeling that it’s close – and that we might hear Tom say so this evening. I still feel like Jordan might pull it out. But honestly, it’s too close to call with any certainty.  I could fake certainty and get it right – but that would be luck, wouldn’t it? 🙂

And I’ll be happy no matter how it turns out.

So, what say you??  Jordan? Lindsey? Or Frankie?  Too close to call??

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I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

Dancing with the Stars Season 25, The FINALE Night 1 – LIVE BLOG

Here we go!!! Pretty fun, competitive finale!

Oh how cute, the couples dancing together. :::rolls eyes::::

Okay kids – lets seem some good dancing!!

Julianne looks beautiful, although I’m not sure I love the red.

Often, going last during the finale is a good sign…but not always. If you’re a Lindsey fan (or a Jordan fan) you better vote your asses off.

Drew up first with his redemption dance. And Bruno in a tiny hard had with a small tool belt.

Paso Doble – pretty massive improvement. But then I think he’s been steadily improving for weeks and not getting rewarded for it. Is he as good as the other dancers? No – but I also don’t think he’s as bad as they’ve been scoring him. They really don’t want him in the final three. Read more..

November 20, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

DWTS Season 25, Week 9 – Dancing by the Numbers!

This week, like last week, seems fairly obvious with regard to who’s going to go home. But beyond that? This show feels like anybody’s game.

But first things first…let’s not waste any time. The judges were quite clear with their preference this past week, underscoring Drew a bit to make sure he is the one to leave this coming Monday. They didn’t underscore him but by a point or so, but it may not take much more than that. Let’s take a look at the scores.

Read more..

November 17, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

DWTS Season 25, THE FINALE – Who’s Dancing What…and When?

We have redemption dances, we have freestyles and god only knows what else!! Oh, right, A FUN FINALE!!

At this moment I only have some redemption dances, thanks to Casanova finding them on the DWTS Instagram account.

ETA: Lots more info now and I’m liking most of what I’m seeing here!! Frankie has two good songs although he might suffer in comparison to previous uses of “Run Boy Run” – LOVE his Frank Sinatra song.  Honestly, I don’t see any real stinkers in here…yet. 🙂

ETA2: Got a little bit of intel on the fusion dances.  Apparently whatever Jordan got, he only required an hour of rehearsal time to learn it 😛 -Court-

Drew Scott and Emma
Monday
Dancing 1st
Redemption Dance: Paso Doble with Bruno as Coach (Song: “Get Ready” by Rayelle)
Freestyle (Song: “The Ding Dong Daddy of the D-car Line” by the Cherry Poppin’ Daddies)
Tuesday:
Repeat Performance
24-hour Fusion Challenge
1-800-868-3404

Frankie Muniz and Whitney
Monday
Dancing 2nd
Redemption Dance: Foxtrot with CAI as Coach (and a solo??) (Song: “I Won’t Dance” by Frank Sinatra)
Freestyle (Song: “Run Boy Run” by Woodkid)
Tuesday:
Repeat Performance
24-hour Fusion Challenge – foxtrot/tango (could be Argentine)
1-800-868-3405

Jordan Fisher and Lindsay
Monday
Dancing 3rd
Redemption Dance: Charleston with Len as Coach (Song: “Bad Man” by Pitbull)
Freestyle (Song: “Puttin’ on the Ritz 2017” Jazzy Mix by Taco)
Tuesday:
Repeat Performance
24-hour Fusion Challenge – jive/?
1-800-868-3406

Lindsey Stirling and Mark
Monday
Dancing Last
Redemption Dance: Quickstep with Julianne as Coach (Song: “Barflies at the Beach” by Royal Crown Review)
Freestyle (Song: “Remember the Name” by Fort Minor/”Palladio” by Escala (Medley))
Tuesday:
Repeat Performance
24-hour Fusion Challenge – tango/cha-cha
1-800-868-3407

It’s a Charleston from Len! #TeamFishUponAStar gets assigned WAY MORE Lindy hop for their redemption dance. #DWTS #Finals

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November 16, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

Dancing with the Stars Season 25, Week NINE – LIVE BLOG

Welp. This should be interesting. Or not. 😉

So we change one element of a challenge and call it “all new”??

I like the videos playing behind the couples. Except victoria’s. What the heck was that? Is she jesus now?

A song that best describes your partner? Okay. Love the Proclaimers, in any case.

Emma is so sweet. Love her.

Drew has flashed us at least twice. I’m okay with this. Cute opening – rewind to watch Keo’s reaction.  🙂  Love the Troupe guys coming in with their kilts. Read more..

November 13, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

Julianne Hough Returns to Guest Judge DWTS Season 25 Finale!

Julianne is back with a “meaningful surprise” – no idea what this means.  This is per Entertainment Tonight – you can click the link to read the whole thing.

“Where my #DWTS fans at?! Get ready…We’re getting the band back together again!” she teased. “I’m coming back as a guest judge NEXT Monday, and I have a very meaningful surprise in store! You won’t want to miss this! Tune in on 11/20 at 8/7c #lovemydwtsfamily.”

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I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

Lindsey Arnold Injures Knee During Camera Blocking

ETA: Apparently, People screwed up and it’s Lindsay Arnold that is hurt, not Lindsey Stirling. Which is both good and bad. Jordan will be well served by Sharna, while Lindsey S. gets to stay in. I’m removing the link as it appears that People took their article down, perhaps to do a re-write.

ETA2: Here’s the link to the revised article: People.com

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Aw, poor Lindsay!!  Let’s hope this is not severe and she dances tomorrow.  From People.com:

“Lindsey injured her knee during camera blocking rehearsal Sunday morning while working on a number with the troupe,” a DWTS source told PEOPLE, who explains that the girls from the troupe are standing in for her at rehearsal and pro Sharna Burgess, who was eliminated alongside her partner Derek Fisher earlier this season, is learning her routines in case Lindsay is too injured to perform.

“Lindsay is hopeful she’ll be cleared to dance tomorrow but it will likely be touch and go until showtime Monday,” the DWTS source continued.

I would not count on her being eliminated by default, kids – I see you in the comments posting that rather hopefully.There is PLENTY of precedent of the show using the dress rehearsal or blocking footage when someone can’t perform on show night.

November 12, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

DWTS Season 25, Week 8 – Dancing by the Numbers!

Well, I knew it was going to be an “interesting” week for the numbers but I had no idea until I actually ran them. 🙂

But first…we’re at that point in the season when most couples are putting out some good dances. Last Monday was no exception. In fact, there was only one disaster and that was shockingly Victoria and Val; that trio was just horrible. I have no idea what Val was thinking. If it wasn’t for the near constant displays of ego from him, I would guess that the producers talked him into making that Trio all about Laurie with Victoria as an afterthought. Unfortunately for Victoria, the video flashback of Val’s win seems right up Val’s alley. I can’t even imagine any other pro (not even Maks, I don’t think) doing such a thing. Made me a bit sad for Victoria.

Anyhow, once you look at the numbers, it’s very obviously either Drew or Victoria going home this coming week.  First, the totals for all couples.

Yeah, a fairly significant vote difference between the top three and the two low scorers. But it gets worse.

As you can see, Drew only needs about 3,200 votes per million votes cast in order to be safe over Victoria. I think he will manage to get that 3,200 votes. He’s getting hosed by the judges plus his dances just have more impact. I also think that his fanbase is far larger than either Victoria’s or Val’s. Always a tough call when someone has to cover a margin, though…even a tiny one.

And, as you can also see, there are no other avenues for Drew – if he wants to be safe he needs to beat Victoria because Frankie, Lindsey and Jordan are way out of reach for him (I believe), starting at a more than 19k vote margin to pass Frankie.

Let’s assume that Drew covers that spread to beat Victoria. What does Victoria need to do to be safe?

See, this is where the bad news really starts. And why it has to be either Drew or Victoria. Drew needs more than 19k more votes per million votes cast and Victoria needs nearly 16k more votes per million votes cast to get past Frankie – and I just don’t see either of them being able to do that. For this season, that is a LOT of votes against a guy like Frankie. I don’t see it happening.

In a nutshell, for Victoria to be safe, she needs ONE of the following things to happen:

  • She needs for Drew to NOT get the 3,200 more votes per million votes cast, OR;
  • She needs to get 16,000 more votes per million votes cast than Frankie, OR;
  • She needs to get 19,200 more votes per million votes cast than Lindsey, OR;
  • She needs to get 38,400 more votes per million votes cast than Jordan.

Do you see any of that happening? The only possible way to safety that I see for Victoria is through Drew.

So, Frankie, Lindsey and Jordan are almost certainly safe and either Drew or Victoria will be eliminated.

Which one? Well, I could certainly be wrong because so many in the cast have been very similar in terms of skill and fanbase this season that it’s been a tough call all the way, but I think it’s Victoria’s time to go.  And this makes me sad, because she seems like such a great girl – but I think she’s plateaued and I think the audience will agree.

What do you think? Victoria or Drew??

November 10, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)

DWTS Season 25, The Semi-Finals – Who’s Dancing What…and When?

So, the pros have chosen the song for the first dance of the night. I remember a time when the pros chose all of their own music. Guess that’s rarely the case any more, since they’re making a production about it being the case monday night.  In addition,  the press release says: “The Couples’ Second Dance Will Take on an Iconic Routine From a Past Season”.  Well, that’s not good news at all. In the past they’ve done the routine and then other times they’ve only used the music but did new choreo. This sounds like it will be the whole routine. Yikes.  Then later in the release it says: “The second is a special Iconic Dance, where each will be challenged to reinterpret an iconic dance from past seasons in this all-important Semi-Finals extravaganza.” The word “reinterpret” gives me some hope, but I think we’ll have to wait and see. As per usual, the producers give some mixed messages.

Personally, I think Nicole’s Proud Mary jive was the iconic dance…but then I think most of the dances they picked as “iconic” are not even close to the most iconic dances ever done on the show. Except for Amber’s, of course – which Val may just destroy. Of all the dances Amber did, though, I don’t think that’s the one that’s iconic. The Jazz, the freestyle…ah well. I guess they were limited by both music and styles not yet danced. But why label them iconic when they really aren’t??

Winners: Jordan and Lindsey S. each got two styles they should be able to handle with ease. Not only that, but Mark ought to be able to improve tremendously on Maks’ Tango chore and Lindsay will have no problem with the Jordan/Jive combo, I don’t think.

50-50: Victoria’s first dance, the Waltz, should be easy on her, but trying to live up to Amber could be very problematic, depending on what the “rules” of this game are this season. Are they required to use similar choreo/similar costumes?? Will they show excerpts of the original – if they do any of that she could be hosed. If it’s all completely new she might be okay.

Losers: Drew and Frankie, for a variety of reasons – take your pick.

ETA: George has started releasing the running order…and so far it’s the same as last week.  As in the past, I begin to wonder if they’re dancing in the order they’re going to finish, reversed.  Sometimes it’s true, sometimes it ain’t.  But this wouldn’t surprise me, although I think Victoria should go tonight.

ETA2: Okay, not the same as last week. And likely not in the order they’re going to finish. But ya never know. 🙂

Drew Scott and Emma
Dancing 1st
Tango (Song: “I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles)” by The Proclaimers)
Jazz (Song: “Yeah!” (feat. Lil Jon, Ludacris) by Usher (Season 17, Corbin Bleu and Karina Smirnoff))
1-800-868-3404

Victoria Arlen and Val
Dancing 2nd
Waltz (Song: “To Build a Home” (feat. Patrick Watson) by Cinematic Orchestra)
Charleston (Song: “Bang Bang” by will.i.am (Season 17, Amber Riley and Derek Hough))
1-800-868-3413

Jordan Fisher and Lindsay
Dancing 3rd
Argentine Tango (Song: “Brother” (feat. Gavin DeGraw) by NEEDTOBREATHE)
Jive (Song: “Proud Mary” by Tina Turner (Season 22, Paige VanZant and Mark Ballas)
1-800-868-3406

Lindsey Stirling and Mark
Dancing 4th
Contemporary (Song: “Head High” by Alexander Jean)
Tango (Song: “Feel So Close” by Calvin Harris (Season 18, Meryl Davis and Maks Chmerkovskiy))
1-800-868-3407

Frankie Muniz and Whitney
Dancing 5th
Salsa (Song: “Shake” by Yin Yang Twins & Pitbull)
Paso Doblé (Song: “Carnival De Paris” by Dario G (Season 4, Apolo Anton Ohno and Julianne Hough))
1-800-868-3405

November 9, 2017 I Written By

I'm a nerd and proud of it. Two degrees in geology also means I love BEER. :-) I'm also a Derek lover - proud of that too. So don't scream at those of us on this site and call us a bunch of "biased Derek-lovers" - it's just ME. :-) It may sound like I hate DWTS at times, but really, I'm just a snarky nitpicker from way back. And I'm cynical and jaded too. But I do love DWTS. :-)