Dancing with the Stars Season 20 – PRO WATCH!!
LIVE BLOG is happening here, which is where all the pros will be added as it happens.
Well, a lot has happened since I last wrote one of these posts. In fact, I normally post pro watch for the spring season in early February – yet here we are. Why? Well, Derek is taking a season off to star at Radio City (looks so happy he may never come back), Cheryl appears to have retired from DWTS and is moving on to a different (reality-based?) show, and Val and Sharna are both blabbing about the next season. And as of last night, Karina is OUT. Hell, I had this post scheduled for tomorrow and here I am posting it today – ya’ll gotta have somewhere to be sad about Karina. (ETA: Vogue was at last night’s show and came away with different and new info re: Karina. Stay tuned.)
In Sharna’s case, I think her hint means she’s definitely IN – after last season I don’t think she would be coy if there were any doubt. And if there is doubt? Bad move, girl. As for Val – I don’t think there’s any way in hell he won’t be on, with Maks and Derek gone and Mark making noise. No way. And he’s saying yes, he is back.
Speaking of Mark – I loved him last season with Sadie – I hope that’s the one that comes back. 🙂 And for the love of god, give the boy another contender. I’m getting sick of Val showmancing his ringers right to third place (or lower). Give Val someone who really has no experience at all. Challenge the man and see what he does with it. Do SOMETHING to make this season interesting (for me, sans Derek). All the whining about Derek over the years and I hear nary a peep from certain quarters about Val’s partners. Give him a Joanna Krupa – engaged model with ‘tude and little natural ability – and see if he can take her as far as Derek did the actual Joanna. Without the romance angle, Val. It’s SO cliche now. 😀
Who will take Derek’s spot?? Well, he can’t be replaced, obviously, but there is a spot that needs to be filled. Louis has been making lots of noise about his chances of coming back, but then he always makes a lot of noise. I tend to think it’s more likely he comes back for a one-night, anniversary thing. I hope that’s it, anyway. Lose Derek and get Louis – not a fair trade. And sorry girls, totally not a fan of Henry AT. ALL. He’s much too big for his britches these days and anyone that thinks that highly of himself is a disaster for this show. But fun for blogging about. 😀 If we need a short guy, my vote goes to Sasha – love that dude. I also like Paul Karmiryan – he was fab on MOVE Live on Tour and he seems to be doing well on the DWTS Tour.
Keo and Artem are question marks. Lots of people get a season as pro and don’t come back. Tested and failed. I don’t think either Keo or Artem are going to fall into this category and if one does I think (hope) it will be Artem. I don’t dislike him, but he doesn’t do anything for me. He and Henry are a bit too fond of the shirtless selfie sort of thing. I find that to be a turn off, no matter how impressive the chest. Let me tell ya, boys, the thing that made me swoon this past week was Derek in a white tuxedo jacket and black tie. Lord have mercy. Word to the wise – some women love a gorgeous suit. Leave something to the imagination. That said – I much prefer Artem to Serge Onik – please, no. That is all.
As for the remaining ladies? I think Peta, Emma and Witney are locks for this season. I think Witney really is the new Julianne, in terms of popularity potential. The girl has “IT” in a big way – I’ve thought that since SYTYCD. Sharna we’ve already discussed – and no, I don’t think it has anything to do with any “fan backlash” from last season. I think some overestimate her popularity based on the squeaky wheels. Sure, she’s popular – but I don’t think many of the women have the oomph to cause producers to change their minds over some internet outrage. Nothing personal about it, just my perception that the female pros in particular are driven by the celebs who sign on to do the show. I think that Sharna knows now simply because they might feel bad for treating her badly last season – I mean, finding out on TV? Harsh.
So, that leaves Allison and someone to take Cheryl and Karina’s spots. I wonder if Kym Johnson might be back – I think they’ve always loved her on the show (as do I) and her being on the tour is a sign that she’s still tight with the producers. She could easily ease the pain of Cheryl’s departure. But what about Allison? Allison is different from someone like Tyne in that she (and her husband) have pretty sizable fanbases thanks to SYTYCD – will it be enough?? Hard to say. I’m on the fence. Rumor was that Jenna was moving up to pro in Cheryl’s place last season until Cheryl changed her mind about leaving – chances are she could take either Cheryl or Allison’s spot this go round. Then there’s Anna Trebunskaya – she’s been hinting much like Louis has, but is this an anniversary thing or will she get a partner? And what about Tanisha Belnap? Anyway…with it being the 20th season/10 year anniversary, I wouldn’t be surprised to see both Kym and Anna.
Next….the word of caution I hand out EVERY season: everyone who works on this web site is on twitter, we see what the pros tweet. I suck at facebook, so if it’s posted there I may miss it (Thanks, Karina). That said…give us a few minutes (20 or so) to post something before you come running to “scoop” us. It’s terribly annoying when people do that. Believe it or not, it actually takes a few minutes to update this site. 🙂 If you find something out and it’s been half an hour and we haven’t posted it?? Scoop away. 🙂
Normally, I would give a larger word of caution such as: a pro saying they are “looking forward to” season 20 is NOT confirmation they have a celeb partner. We need more than that. You’ll know it when you see it. 🙂
ETA: Ha! Vogue was right. Karina didn’t say she was out for the season. That doesn’t automatically mean she’s IN, mind you, but it’s not a sure thing. I removed the link to the other article.
ETA 2: Louis is very excited. :::sigh::: I could say so many things right now, but I will try to refrain. He’s sounding pretty confident.
ETA 3: Please note that “reached out to” does NOT equal “yes so and so is dancing this season”. From Vogue’s recent post we know the pros will be announced on Wednesday, February 11th.
ETA4: As we suspected and feared, Karina says she’s OUT. We will miss her terribly. 🙁
ETA5: Boy, Lizzie just can’t keep her pie hole shut can she?? Braggy…which works well with her clients, I guess. Calling Artem tentatively in. Would love to see him land in the troupe though.
ETA6: You be the judge…is Allison in??
ETA7: E Online is confirming both Mark and Val. Adding: According to Val’s twitter, he’s also announcing the new pros on GMA today. ~Vogue
ETA8: Is Peta IN? Another You be the judge!
The starting positions below are based on the individual pro’s status last season.
Male Pros
Val – IN
Tony – In until hell freezes or the wife says “no” (rumor)
Mark – IN via E Online
Artem – IN??
Keo – ??
Derek’s spot?
Female Pros
Sharna – IN
Peta – IN ??
Karina – OUT for Real
Emma – ??
Witney – ??
Allison – IN ??
Cheryl’s spot?
Former Pros, Status Unknown
Tyne Steckline – Likely Out
Gleb Savchenko – Likely Out
Tristan MacManus – Possible
Anna Trebunskaya – Possible
Louis Van Amstel – Possible
Kym Johnson – Possible
Lacey Schwimmer – Will she do DWTS BTS again?
Out for the Season
Derek Hough – Out for Celeb Partner, may be back for pro dance
Cheryl Burke – Likely out for good
Maksim Chmerkovskiy – Likely out for good
Karina Smirnoff – Possibly out for good
The Troupe
Lindsay Arnold – ??
Sasha Farber – ??
Henry Byalikov – ??
Jenna Johnson – ??
Super Troupers, Past
Oksana Dmytrenko
Kiki Nyemchek
Nicole Volynets
Ted Volynets
Dasha Chesnokova
Julian Tocker
Potential Future Troupers??
Armen Way
Serge Onik
Tanisha Belnap
Marcquet Hill
Great to see things heating up for season 20. Here’s hoping there will be no frigging showmances and that Emma gets a great partner if she is a pro. I can’t see Artem back but that is just my opinion. Not even sure about Keo, although perhaps he would be good in the troop for a season. Without the class acts of Derek, Cheryl and Karina, this might be the season of pro egos and that would be a shame.
Yeah, Judy, you make a good point. Derek, Cheryl and Karina were stabilizing influences a lot of the time. It will be interesting to see how things gell with them gone.
Luckily, the ladies left are models of good behavior. Maybe that will rub off on some of those boys.
Vogue was at last nights show, was at the Q&A and got to talk to Karina afterwards. All hope is not lost in terms of Karina. 🙂
Yay! Thank you for this post, Princess H! Been checking in here regularly for new articles. Interesting to know who’d be back and who’d fill Derek’s and Cheryl’s spots. I’m going to miss Derek this season, but I’m happy he gets to do something different. Hope he really does a pro number which he choreographs. Sad to know that Karina’s out.
LOL on “Tony – In until hell freezes or the wife says “no” ” 😀
Ah not liking this too much, I’m just happy Emma and Mark will be back. Seriously how badly do they want Val to win, after the tour and all the fans going crazy for shirtless Val, I don’t think the pimping of him will go down. Truth is if they want Val to win so badly, they need to change it up, not constantly giving him he same type of contenders. People want to see something different, you saw how much fans ate up the “sweet” Maks, when he was with Meryl. Also, with Mark I don’t think he will be leaving until he gets one more win, how many seasons has it been since his last? 11? 12? But thats not the direction the show is going so I doubt there is a win in store for him this season. Wow this is long, but lastly just after seeing Emma on tour, I want the show to showcase her more, this woman is incredible.
We don’t know that Mark and Emma will be back for sure. Hence the ?? by their names. Just sayin’.
Judy you make a good point about not having Derek, Karina and Cheryl around. I think the ladies most likely to be pros are all very classy and won’t cause issues. The male pro side could be a problem though without Derek and not knowing if Mark will be back yet.
Here are my guesses:
1. Val
2. Tony
3. Mark (hopefully)
4. Keo
5. Artem
6. Henry
While I would LOVE to see Val get a partner he has to actually work with and try and mold, I think he’ll probably get another ringer. Without Derek there they will want to keep their top choreographers on as long as possible and that is Val at this point. After the post season debacle with Janel I just hope he’s learned something about showmances but I won’t hold my breath. I think Keo deserves another shot and I think they need the diversity. Artem and Henry are really just educated guesses at this point.
1. Sharna
2. Witney
3. Emma
4. Peta
5. Allison
6…..Jenna?
I agree that I don’t think Sharna would be saying anything at this point if she didn’t know she was coming back, not after what happened last season. With Witney and Emma being on tour I can’t imagine they wouldn’t be back and I just assume Peta will be there. I actually hope she gets a non dancer again as I LOVED watching her work with Tommy. Allison is a big question mark for me. I think she deserves another shot and I think the producers like the skill set she brings to the show.
The 6th spot could really go to anyone. I put Jenna because of the rumor last season of her taking Cheryl’s spot but at the same time she wasn’t used THAT much last season other than the Val/Lea old person number. As the pros were eliminated they took her spot in bumpers and pro numbers and then she wasn’t used during the trio round either so I don’t know what to think. Kym I do think is a possibility for the nostalgia factor.
Personally, I think Val blew his chance to become top choreographer last season. Mark took that spot, sans Derek. Val took too many pointers from Maks and picked up a lot of his bad habits.
It makes me sad that Chelsie isn’t even mentioned in this post anymore 🙁 I know she hasn’t been on the show for several seasons, but I still hold out hope that she may be back!
Yay, pro watch! This makes me really excited.
One thing to keep in mind for next season – we are losing at least 2-3 pros from last season: Derek, Cheryl, and possibly Karina. There happen to be three dancers on tour – Paul Karmiryan, Brooklyn Fulmer, and Brittany Cherry – who are not contracted to do the show yet. I would not be surprised if we see them on the show next season, ESPECIALLY not Brittany. After all, she did the ballroom battle and the DWTS Kids competition, the latter of which she won.
PH, do they merit being added to the list?
Just can’t wait for the new season – no matter who the pros are. Was lucky enough to have back to back nights of dance – BWAT Friday & DWTS tour Saturday. They are all great. It must be challenging doing the same dances over & over on tour – I bet they miss the chance to do something new and fresh every week. I would guess that of all the newer dancers though, Keo is most likely to come back. He is tall, and brings needed diversity to the mix. Henry/Artem are interchangeable – I can’t always tell them apart on the show.
I don’t know, Aviva. There’s an awful lot of winking from pros like Louis and Anna and that eliminates two spots right there.
Unlike many, I don’t see the tour as a guarantee of ANYTHING. Some got something else out of it (Mark), others likely had to do it if asked and not already committed to something else (Val, Witney, Emma, etc.). The newer pros all have contracts that pretty much require they do what the producers ask. I think the reason that more weren’t on tour was that they likely already were contractually bound to something else when DWTS decided to blatantly capitalize on the very successful MOVE Live put on by Derek and Julianne. We didn’t hear a peep about this tour until after MOVE sold out nearly every show. Then DWTS started whining about BWAT and suddenly newer DWTS pros were out and were on the DWTS Tour unless they had contracts that DWTS couldn’t whine about. Like the HAL cruises or Dance Pros Live.
The DWTS isn’t a sign of fidelity by the show to those specific pros – it’s about making MONEY. DWTS stopped touring years ago because they stopped making money. Then they saw what Derek and Julianne did this past summer and saw dollar signs. They signed up every pro they possibly could along with Alfonso. The pros are getting paid and are probably quite happy. But I don’t really see it as a “sign” except maybe in the case of Kym Johnson. But maybe not even then. Hell, the tour needed more dancers so they went to Derek and Jules dancers to fill in!
Rebecca – Chelsie’s non-inclusion wasn’t intentional, really. I don’t necessarily consider her GONE like I do Edyta.
I wonder if Lindsay has a better shot at being pro again because of the wildly successful Paso Trio w/ Witfonso. She also had that Nick Jonas dance at the finale. Witney was promoted last year after her Jazz Trio w/ Corbin/Karina.
Yep no more dwts for me and I am super happy. I’m gonna be at the gym when dwts is on working on improving myself- no derek no me and I hope and pray and cross my fingers that he will never ever ever be back on this horrible show. He is shining in NYC – completely happy,unstoppable man. NYC has been waiting for him and he has arrived, he is finally home. I’m just so happy for him, it brings me to tears :))))))
I’m crying here, no Karina??? Please let that not end up being true. Unless she’s doing something else she truly wants to do that’s more important like Derek is. There are very few pros whose dances I watch over and over, Derek with any one I can watch all day but especially with Nicole, and I find myself watching a lot of Karina’s routines over the various seasons. I was late coming on board as a Karina fan which makes no sense to me now, she’s a goddess on the dance floor and I love her attitude re life.
Promotion based on a trio?? If Lindsay is promoted there will be another reason than that.
If you look at the list, there are NOT many open spots, really. There are possibly THREE. So why look at the tour or individual dances to see who might fill those spots? And if you’re going to look at the tour, how can you ignore Kym Johnson in favor of either Brittany or Brooklyn? Paul may have a shot, but will he get a spot over someone like Louis or Sasha??
No one is a guarantee at this point, really. It depends on the celebs. And with three of the Top Pros gone (or almost certainly gone) are they going to risk adding new faces or are they going back to other fan favorites? Or are they going to do a complete overhaul and have Mark sit out as well?
All the pros are posturing on their social media accounts, hoping to drum up support and get noticed by the producers. Even Karina could be doing this if she is not on contract. For some reason Val seems to be the only pro who has come out 100% saying he is back. I don’t think Lindsay will be back as a pro. Imo, Witney has solidified the young female spot now. If the producers are going to shake things up, it might be with pros not on the show for a while. I could definitely see them doing that – bringing back some veterans rather than more new young ones. There are only so many ways to freshen up the lineup and that might be one way.
I don’t think britt will be pro becuse she will be exhausted going from dwts tour to dwts yo move tour – she is derek and jules dancer don’t forget. I get the feeling that all of the dancers on move really became a close family.
Same thing goes for paul
Oh Goodie it’s that time again!!
Hopefully Keo will be given another shot this season. I think it would be unfair to punish him just because he was given such a terrible partner. I think he deserves another chance.
This is when it starts to get good… 🙂
Thanks Everyone!
So sad to hear about Karina, but she really seems to have a lot of awesome opportunities coming her way right now! I think I prefer pro-watch over celeb-watch more these days with all of these shake ups in the cast! It will be interesting to see who gets the sports. I really do hope to see Jenna promoted to pro to see what she can offer. And as much as I like her as a dancer, I would be happy not to see Allison return. I think she shines so much on SYTYCD where she can create pieces that fit her style and not worrying about pleasing the judges with ballroom every week.
PH I agree with you…please please please just let Louis only be back for a pro number or a special show. I’m just not a fan of him at all. He did a local “Dancing with the Stars” event in my town that featured local personalities for charity and he was just very off putting the whole time. I would LOVE to see someone like Sasha get the pro spot over Louis. Also bringing back Anna would be fun because she is such a spitfire, but I also love her commentary on Afterbuzz, so I’m torn.
Thanks for all of your alls investigating and hard work to bring us the latest news! I can’t believe it is already time for pro-watch!
Josi please – if either Brittany or Paul were offered a pro spot on DWTS they would take it in a heartbeat. Exhausted from the tours? The only one who was exhausted was Derek – Brittany and Paul didn’t go from Move to DWTS to DWTS Tour – they had a break in between. They’re young and they’d be fine.
Karina doesn’t need to posture, but I agree with you somewhat on the rest of them. Val is the only one to come out and say 100% because he’s probably the only one that knows. And the only reason he knows is because Derek is off for this season. Derek and Cheryl were the only ones who regularly knew this early. With them both gone, Val gets the early lock in spot. But I wouldn’t count on it being permanent. He likely was requested by someone.
I will say, again, that I think Sharna knows she’s on. I don’t think she’s foolish enough to strongly hint after what happened last season.
Louis just seems very jealous and bitter, Meghan. Like we need more of that on the show.
As for Anna, sometimes I wonder about her. I normally like her a lot, but she was sounding kinda bitter too.
I kind of hope that Anna is not asked back this season. Neither her or Chelsie shined in the choreography department. I think DWTS can do better.
I like the idea of some past pros coming back for a special episode or performance but I really don’t think I could take Louis for an entire season again. I agree Meghan that his personality is a bit off putting or bitter, hard to explain.
I do hope Mark is back because 1) I’ve really enjoyed him the last few seasons and his choreography has really wowed me and 2) I fear it will become the Val show without some legit competition on the male side.
My problem is I can’t decide if the show is going to continue to push the younger audience angle and use someone like Jenna or Lindsay to fill a spot or reach for the nostalgia angle this season and bring in someone like Kym or Anna.
i prefer Henry to Louis but either one is probably going to get Derek’s spot. I really hope that Kim comes back and if karina doesn’t come back at least we have another fan fav instead in her place. As for Cheryl’s spot, I am hoping it’s not Jenna and if it is Lacey I will laugh becuase it’s been so long since her last pro spot. Saying that, I always liked her energy.
As for keo and artem, I think both will be back. Artem did himself a world of good last season before he basically scared the hell out of Lea and made her start comparing herself to the others and tried pushing the cougar stuff. So lesson to artem: do not freak out your partner. Now as for keo, I really hope he sticks around. Peta had a bad partner first time out and they kept her so I hope it’s the same becuase that guy is way too talented to be a one and done.
Kinda wonder if Lacey might come back as a pro – I think her doing the behind-the-scenes stuff last season might have been a segue into her returning as a pro. Since Frankie Moreno’s stint at Stratosphere in Vegas ended a month or so ago, she no longer has a show that she’s choreographing. I wouldn’t mind her coming back – she definitely has a certain energy that the show has been lacking in recent seasons.
I don’t think Anna or Chelsie stand a snowballs’ chance in hell of getting asked back – both have been pretty vocal about their beefs with the show in recent years. Pretty sure some bridges have been burned – and neither one is as buzzworthy as someone like Maks, who can get away with bitching about the show and still get asked back.
And Brittany and or Paul being “too exhausted” to do DWTS if asked? Sorry, but I find that a tad ridiculous – being exhausted is par for the course in this industry, and unless you’re like Derek and have some sort of primo deal (i.e. Broadway, a movie, etc), I don’t think any of these pros have the luxury of turning down DWTS. It’s about the best gig you can get in Hollywood these days, if you’re a ballroom dancer.
Thank you…PHeidi …for doing the PRO WATCH
I can’t believe we are almost to Feb. and pretty soon the Pros will be starting their practices with their celebrate partners.
I would rather see Sasha, Henry, or Keo back rather than Louis and his stale personality or Artem’s self-centered demeanor.
I would love to see Chelsi Hightower, Kym Johnson, Anna, Sharna along with Emma, Witney.
I love you Princess Heidi! You always hit the nail on the head with your insightful & wonderful commentary. Now, I don’t mean to sound like a curmudgeon but I probably will when I say that without Derek on this season, I’m discouraged about the show offering any really high standard of flawlessly executed, creative, interesting and beautiful choreography. I will give it a chance however, but if it continues on its predictable course of egotistical, chest-baring, show-mancing male pros (Val, I’m looking at you) and barely clothed, overtly-sexily posturing female pros, I may be too bored to continue watching. All my hopes at this point are on Mark & Witney, and maybe Sharna, to do a great job and fingers crossed that Derek can find time in his busy schedule to dance/choreograph a pro number. I’m so darn happy for Derek to be recognized in NYC for his astonishing professional and personal attributes, but will dearly miss seeing him perform on TV every week.
I do think Brittany and Paul and possibly Brooklyn (although I kind of doubt it) will be involved in some way (troupe most likely).
Isn’t Gleb doing DWTS in Russia? Not sure when that season ends but I can’t imagine him doing both shows
I do hope if Henry gets bummed up to pro (or Sasha) that Paul gets a shot at the troupe. I think he’s a great dancer and he seems to have a great energy about him. I could see Brittany getting added to the troupe depending on what happens with Lindsay/Jenna. I really didn’t know much about Brooklyn before the tour but based on the footage I’ve seen of the show she really isn’t that impressive. She always seems a beat behind the other dancers and she’s not very dynamic in her movements.
Yeah, Gitte, forgot about that. Not that it matters since I don’t think he had a shot anyway.
Any chance Damian Whitewood would be back?
Almost no chance, IMO, to see Damian.
Maybe something, maybe nothing. Peta seemed to confirm that she is traveling to Australia sometime in Feb. She has an appearance in Green Bay around Feb 13th. So if she’s going, is it before or after? If after, would certainly miss the show.
Not sure why Peta going to Australia has a thing to do with DWTS. Funny thing is planes can get you there and back with relative ease.
If she’s going after the 13th of Feb, it would stand to reason she wouldn’t be back by the 17th when they’re supposed to report for the show? Regardless of how fast planes can fly.
Since Derek, Cheryl and now Karina are out it will surprise me if they don’t bring Mark back. He has had excellent choreography these last two seasons. Besides he has a large fan base. Mark was amazing in the DWTS tour both as a dancer and a musician. I don’t want to see Louis, Anna, or Artem back. I didn’t care to much for Allison either. She seems more of a contemporary dancer than ballroom.
I hope they definitely bring back Witney, Emma, Sasha and Mark. I don’t want it to be the Val show.
Miss Heidi, I just finally had some time to read your entire first post. Well done. I couldn’t agree more on Sasha for a short pro if needed. Also, if they think they can replace Derek with Louis, that would be their worst mistake.
I’m also on the bandwagon of letting Paul do the show. I’m not sure if he’s ready to be a Pro, but, he sure would make an excellent addition to the troupe.
And Val vs Mark for choreography? I pick MARK HANDS DOWN as of right now. However, if Val were keep it real without the showmancing, I would tie them. There are times when Val blows me away when he takes the high road, he’s serious and in a power moment. IE: He and Meryl’s Tango switch up dance!
#40 KoreyL I remember Peta saying last fall (I think after show ended or in a Twitter Q&A that she was going to Australia to see family for first time in 2 yrs. She’s done the Green Bay event in past. She was supposed to dance in Jan in BWAT (think mid Jan) but due to lawsuit was pulled because like Emma, Val etc is under contract. During an interview at Jingle Ball LA in Dec she responded to a question about wanting to be back and gave a list of reasons why she deserved a spot (the interview is on this site.) I have no proof other than that but I got the impression she planned to dance in Jan in BWAT, go to Australia in early Feb then do Green Bay before Season 20. But hey I know only what I read and could be totally wrong. These hardworking people on this site are the experts! And Thx to all at PureDWTS for everything! Love pro and celeb watch!
As for me my dream is to get rid of
Artem and bring back Tristan. This wasn’t good swap over.I don’t like snobs.
Should you possibly add paul and brittany to the list? I love this post every season and after seeing them on tour i have a really good feeling they’ll be involved. They are very talented snd entertaining.as well as Brooklyn too.
I think it’s the other way around. I think Val has become the most popular pro on the show. He has been sky rocketing since joing. Now he’s at an all time high. No way producers don’t bring him back and offer him the world like they do with Derek. Pros like Derek, Mark and Cheryl have the power to stay or go. Now Val. He will be on this show for as long as he wants. He is also very popular with the other pros. He’s become great friends with them. You guys are going to run out of people to hate. Will you start hating Mark now? I also believe Derek realized Val is now #1 and he left. Proof is last season. Derek was the most popular pro with a massive fan base. He has this website, Afterbuzz and other media supporting him to the fullest. Bethanny has half a billion fans. This site, Afterbuzz and many other’s put major effort every week to knock Val down. Like you are in this article. People didn’t like his romance. Yet, they still beat out Derek and Beth. The real power lies with the celebs popularity anyway. Give me a break with Val always getting ringers. Ringers are Nicole, Corbin and Meryl types. However, it’s the fan base that’s the most important. This is a voting show. Elizabetta, no. Sherri, no. Kelly Monaco was not a good dancer so no. Zendaya was only 16. Elizabeth was capable, but didn’t have the fan base. Danica was capable, but didn’t have the fan base. Janel was capable, but was not going to beat out Alfonso and Sadie’s fan bases. It’s still a shock she beat out Bethanny’s in combo with Derek. So no. He has not had ringers. Zendaya was the biggest surprise. Janel was expected because of the weak cast, but not expected to win. NO OTHER partner he has had was expected to win. EVERYONE knew they wouldn’t. So again, no ringers. If anyone is still going to call his partners ringers, then same goes for Derek. If Val got a Joanna Krupa(who did very well) people would still cry ringer. Stop with the showmance stuff. As if he always has a romance with his partners. Elizabetta, no. Sherri, no. Zendaya, no. Elizabeth, no. Danica, no. Val has had as many showmance/romances as Derek has. Which is two. Derek even tried with Katherine who wasn’t his partner. People were “shipping” Derek and Beth all season. This show will ALWAYS have showmance/romances. These people are human. I’d like to see any of you join the show, spend 5 plus hours a day, getting intimate in dance and not falling for that person. Then have websites like this, who are strangers verbally abuse you. This is a TV show. There is no way they’re going to give Derek, Mark and especially now Val a partner who may be eliminated early. They do their best to give them someone with potential. Who can dance, someone likeable or someone with a big fan base. Or all the above. They are the biggest draws of the show. They will lose viewers if these pros get eliminated early.
I know this post will not be approved because your all so hateful and are terrified of the truth.
Dance4Me, I’d love that too. I loved Tristan!
Anxiously awaiting Vogue’s post on Karina. I’ll miss her dearly if she’s not on.
For the men, I’d love Sasha and Paul to get a pro spot.
I didn’t like how Artem partnered with Lea last season. The hungry couger persona that was pushed in our faces week after week left a sour taste in my mouth. I don’t know if that was Lea or Artem’s fault, but it was his fault that instead of correcting her posture and too hesitant foot placement he sexed her up time after time. So for me, Artem OUT.
If Mark does come back, lets hope we get kind, creative Mark and not pissy, over it Mark.
For the women, of all the former pros to ask back, I’d love for Lacey to be one of them. I miss her spunk, choreography and wacky fashion sense.
Other than the sublime Karina, Peta and Witney are now my favorite female pros. I never in a million years thought I’d say that 2 years ago. Both of them won me over wholeheartedly with the amazing work they did with Alfonzo and Tommy.
Wouldn’t mind seeing Kym come back. She takes whatever type of partner she gets, whether a dud or a contender and treats them equally with respect and kindness.
Well, it is sad not to see Mark and Karina dancing this March,20th season. I had hope to see Karina do a dance with Slavik K. on DWTS to the song (I think it is called) Daddy, I want a brand new car and a diamond ring etc. Whitney dances a little like Karina. Best to you Whitney. Allison is not a good ballroom dancer (MUST GO). I hope DWTS will not be a “hot mess” this season. At least we will still have our Tony D. So I am happy about that.
Thanks Susan. My report just went up:
https://www.puredwts.com/2015/01/26/exclusive-puredwts-dancing-pros-live-report-photos-backstage-information-and-lots-more/
Actually, BretndaKB, I approved your post so everyone could be entertained. Plus I needed help deciphering it. I’ve never seen so many contradicting arguments in one post. Congratulations. LOL.
Is it definite that Mark will not be dancing this season? If so, that’s a big disappointment. With this being the anniversary season to many of the pros who have made this show a success will not be performing (Derek, Cheryl and now Karina).
“Derek realized Val is #1 and left?” LMAO. Babe, you forgot to add that he was offered a job on Broadway because they felt sorry for him. I couldn’t bring myself to read the rest of that mess.
I sensed that Karina would move on, can’t blame her. I hope she will return for a pro dance. One with Derek would be a show stopper.
Is it confirmed Mark is sitting next season out? I thought I read that he said he was excited to return.
Where are people getting the idea that Mark is out? If you ain’t got a link, it’s speculation.
I still don’t think Karina is out from what she said backstage at Dancing Pros and the vibe I got. I don’t think Mark is out either. I’ll believe it when I see it!! Let’s not forget how it was all played out like Sharna wasn’t coming back last season and look what happened. Talk and speculation like that is great buzz for the show right now, but, it doesn’t mean it’s a fact until the official announcement…which as you all know, anything can happen. I’m just glad Miss Sharna won’t have to go through what she did last season and she can breathe easier right now.
I think Kristyn Burt posted something on who she knows who’s in, I think she said Mark was in.
Derek’s not even on this season, and there are still some insecure fans of a certain other pro that can’t resist a throwing out a few parting shots. Good grief.
I adore Tanisha and I want to see more of her but I think she should start out in the troupe. I also think Keo needs another shot with a decent partner that doesn’t have a bad attitude. I’m game for whoever the pros are because I like all of them in their own way but I really hope Keo is on the list.
An interesting observation: Karina is scheduled for all the Dancing Pros Live shows until Feb. 22nd. However, she’s not on the schedule for the Feb 24th (possible Cast Reveal day on GMA), 25th, and 26th shows.
http://www.dancingproslive.com/tour-info-buy-tickets/
Karina’s scheduled to do a book signing on 2/23 at the Barnes ans Noble at the Grove. So she’s back in LA. Any word on where they will be doing the cast reveal? Is it in LA or NY?
I don’t think Karina being in LA on the 23rd has anything to do with where the cast reveal is, with all due respect, Mel. Remember that last season Allison was in LA for SYTYCD the night before the reveal and was still in NYC bright and early in the morning!
@princessheidi
Love this site and articles. Thanks for doing it!
With regard to Val and the shirtless ness, what do you think about him saying the producers tell him to lose his shirt? Do you think it’s the producers trying to amp up the sex appeal? I mean, Artem was sans shirt most of S19 and they seemed to have Keo sans shirt as much as they could. Then I was thinking about the whole thing on twitter in S18 to vote for Tony shirt on or off during his AT with Nene. And think about Sasha and Henry shirts open half the time too.
A lot of people are posting about Val being shirtless but does he have a lot of choice? That’s what I am curious about. Does anyone know?
@dance4me
What makes you feel that Artem is a snob? Just curious.
I loved Tristan too. I miss him as a pro!!
🙂
I think Val (and his brother) make lots of excuses for things. Do the producers suggest it?? Hell, yeah. They practically made Derek take off his shirt when doing the rumba with Amber. And that’s not the first time.
Thing is, you can say no. And from what I hear, Val is shirtless most of the tour – and I don’t think the producers suggested that.
Sharna said (on Afterbuzz I think) that she was only left out of the GMA announcement because Tavis was hmmming and hawing about whether he could commit because of his book tour and that she wasn’t surprised because she knew when the others started to be confirmed and whatnot.
So, I can actually buy it being to placate people with the news of who already left and who is rumored to be leaving.
Just my two cents, of course. 🙂
Do producers force Val to take off his shirt on dwts tour? NO! he likes to take offf his shirt – that’s all there is to it.
Seriously, I don’t think it’s a big deal if he takes of his shirt or not.
Thank you PHeidi for approving #46. It’s been a long day and I needed a good laugh. Unfortunately I don’t have the time or inclination to decipher and respond to it. I will make one comment. Suri Serano has said on every Afterbuzz I have ever heard that she loves Val and his choreo. Shirley Ballas as a guest praised him on show among others so I don’t even understand that comment. As for the rest, it would be unfair for me to respond point by point. As a lawyer I know how to make a coherent argument and response. It just wouldn’t be fair to her.
I’m gonna still pray that the seahawks win the Super Bowl, Russell Wilson keeps his promise, and he & Karina are “surprise announcement”….heck that would be a lot better than the Sharna & Tavis one last season.
Me too, Lex!!!
#51 Princess H, #67 Liz – ROTFL! Oh, gosh! Okay, (catching my breath). Thank you, Princess H, for posting #46 comment. You’re right; I was entertained.
Loved reading all the comments and speculations here.
I hope Brittany Cherry is given a spot. I was bummed when she didn’t go further then Jenna on SYTYCD …. so I hope she is given a spot over Jenna! HA! lol
That pretty much sums up my feelings as well, Liz. I’m a scientist and, frankly, that one hurt my brain. 😉
I’m sorry, I have to run out so I can’t go through every comment at the moment, but I don’t know that I think Karina is out. I wrote on that topic yesterday. There are too many little things suggesting she’s still in it — like she RT’d an article that claimed she had a deal w/ Russell Wilson to be his partner if the Seahawks win the SB. Really sorry if I’m being repetitive!
Assuming that Karina is also out along with Cheryl and Derek and that they go back to only having 12 slots (unless 13 is confirmed), I’m thinking the definites will be:
Guys: Mark, Tony, Val
Girls: Sharna, Peta, Whitney, Emma
With some of the staples leaving, I think Kym will be brought back and less likely Lacey (who I think has the right energy and would be a fantastic return). If a troupe member gets bumped up, I think maybe Jenna. They need another brunette and Lindsay is a little bland. IMO, Allison, while great on SYTYCD, was a fail on DWTS. She doesn’t seen to move like a ballroom dancer, especially in her own Latin choreo, so how is she supposed to teach somebody else? I think Lindsay and Brittany will be troupe.
The guys are a little trickier. I think Artem, Keo, Sasha and Henry will all be back, it’s just a matter of who goes where. They each have had one season, so any of them could get another chance to shine. It may end up being more about who fits with certain celebs based on height/age/etc. My guesses are Artem (who was really one of the stars on Strictly) and Keo stay. If either Louis or Dmitry(maybe?) doesnt come back, Sasha moves in. And Henry and Paul K are the troupe.
Will be interesting to see though. Personally would love a Lacey and Dmitry return, but not getting my hopes up. And should they pilfer from Strictly, I would love to see Anya take over the “older” brunette role or have Aljaz, Trent Whiddon, or Pasha come in. But that is dreaming.
I think Sasha will only ever be a pro again if they find someone really short. Snooki was what? 4’9, right? I could be wrong, of course.
I feel like troupe would’ve done a world of good for Keo. He’s awesome, but he was sort of starry eyed himself last season, I know putting the lion’s share of the blame on Lolo was the thing to do because of her reputation, but I’m not sure Keo really knows how to handle someone who’s not a dancer/performer in that way. I guess I had higher expectations for him because he did BTF with so many of the others.
I personally hope that they do not bring back Louis, Dmitry, Alec, Damien, Jonathan etc. The only pros that I miss on the show from previous seasons are Tristan and Maks (and I know he is done). I really liked all the male pros in S19, although I agree with a lot of people that Tony has been on long enough. I thought Keo was amazing and I liked Artem too. I hope they are both back. I’m glad Val is back and Mark too. I think Mark is an amazing choreographer.
I wouldn’t mind Kym coming back because she seems terribly sweet but again, I like a lot of the current pros over previous pros. If Karina leaves and Kym takes her spot that’s great. LOVE Emma, Sharna, Witney and Peta. I think Alison is sweet and insanely talented but I feel like her ballroom isn’t good enough. I would like to see a new pro or a trouper get her spot. I would like to see Alison take over for Mandy Moore on the shows
Depending on the number of spots to full, I would love to see Sasha and Henry get to be pros again. They are just both so talented. As for Lindsey and Jenna, I don’t know if either should be a pro. I think I prefer Brittany Cherry and Tanisha Belnap to them. From what I have seen of Brooklyn, all I can say is please no!
@princess Heidi
Do you guys have a list of the heights of pros? Would be cool to see a rundown because I think it helps make sense of the why and who’s of the partnering. thanks!!!
I agree that they’ll probably use Sasha more for the shorter celebs, but I dont think that he would look out of place dancing with somebody who is around Emma’s height, which doesnt seem too tall. At least I hope, because he has a fun, playful attitude and I liked the choreo he delivered with Snooki. He would probably do well with the younger celebs.
As for Keo, I remember reading here that they wanted to add some diversity to the cast for Pros, which is probably one of the reasons he bypassed the troupe. That could factor in again. As it stands, if Karina/Cheryl/Derek are out, the cast essentially becomes a myriad or blonde girls (+Sharna) and dark haired guys (+Keo). And while this may not seem all that important, I think the producers would probably not want a cast that all seem to blend in to each-other, even if we’ve become familiar with their personalities. I still always find it crazy that cant find any Latino pros.
Yes, we have a list and we normally post it when the celebs are announced so we can try to guess the pairings.
Yes, Karina’s last tweet makes us, her fans, so much more hopeful:))))))))
Joe R, the diversity conversation was pure speculation on our part. We welcomed it but I don’t think we know if that was their goal – although Vogue might.
@JoeR I mean Mark does have some Mexican and Spanish in him from his father side, so I guess that counts sorta
I’m wondering in comparison how diverse DWTS pro casts from the shows around the world are. Because I’m sure a lot more goes into it than how successful you are on the dance floor. The pros we have may not be technically superior to others, but there’s a reason our pros are on TV. If that makes sense.
I remember an interview Emma did when she was in the troupe where she said that there’s no dance audition for DWTS pros, just a filmed chat so they see how you look and act on camera.
As much as I love Lindsay, i don’t really want to see her as a pro this season. I think Witney has already taken that role as the blonde, young and youthful pro and I would like it to stay that way. As for Jenna, idk, for some reason I just never really like her. She so extra when she dances & there’s just something about her that annoys me… Just my opinion. Mark better bring that ass back on that season 20 stage!!! 😉 If Tony gets another indecent or uncapable partner again, then they just need to let him go and same for Emma too. I love them both, but its just so hard to watch some of their dances with their partners, it makes me feel uncomfortable and feel kind of bad for them:( I hope they don’t do Witney dirty and give her a shitty person with 2 left feet. I think they should maybe even another ringer again or somebody who’s willing to actually learn and wants to win like Alfonso:) I really want to see her win again or mark he deserves it. 🙂 Allison needs to go! Don’t get me wrong, i LOVED her on sytycd as a contemporary dancer, but her technique just isn’t there. Just go on YouTube and look at her samba with Jonathan. Yeah I know she may of had some training from derek in some areas in ballroom but… Just no. Anyways, as long as my bae’s Mark & Witney are back & have some partners with some sort of rhythm and musically, a great storyline, with some fans that will actually call in and vote and is motavated to win AND doesn’t do the whole showmance shit, than I’ll be a happy girl;)
See Alicia…I tried to tell you! 😉
@CM
From only watching the past couple seasons of Strictly Come Dancing, I would say that Strictly is a little bit more diverse both in country of origin and age, but not that much. They ended up taking Jeannette and Karen from SYTYCD, who did great by the way, and they have a couple of older guys. But like you said, there is certainly more that goes into casting for tv. Personalities have to pop and they have to be able to communicate well on TV, which may favor the dancers from Utah/UK/Australia. Also, unlike Strictly which has stuck to more traditional ballroom dances, DWTS is adding more contemp/jazz/etc. which seems to favor more cross-trained dancers, who tend to be the Americans. That’s one reason why I think Artem worked better on Strictly than on DWTS, because he didnt have to do non-ballroom and they dont have as many over-the-top elaborate productions with 8-10 people outside of the freestyle.
Either way, as long as the pros keep the viewers interested so that we can get a results show where they are featured, I’m happy with whoever they choose.
It’d be a shame for me if they cut any of the current pros for any old pros. Just seems completely undeserving. If they can add old pros to the list of pros already on the show then fair enough I guess So for example Kym for Cheryl and Louis for Derek. Then have a big opening number with loads of old pros for a one off performance. Then that leaves Derek free to return next season. If he wants to…
Based on 12 couples
Kym, Sharna, Peta, Emma, Witney, Karina/Allison.
Val, Tony, Mark, Artem, Keo, Louis/any old pro.
I don’t know how important diversity is to TPTB when they look for pros. But for sure,There are a lot of amazing and talented dancers out there from all over the world. If the producers continue to draw from BTF they may bring in more diversity because the BTF casts have had some diversity.
Paul Barris (Puerto Rican) and Jon Platero (El Salvadorean) have both been on Dwts numbers over the years but neither have been given a pro shot. I think either one would be amazing. And has anyone seen Kimalee Piedad? She is amazing!
Since people are talking about it just want to comment on the whole producers forcing pros to be shirtless, I just want to say if anyone saw Sadie and Mark’s interviews last season, they kept getting asked about the sexy costumes, and Mark’s answer was the same every time, “you choose what you wear” so producers can’t force u to take off your shirt, yes they will encourage it, but like Mark said you can say no. Even on the tour, Mark doesn’t take his shirt off, and if the producers were in charge, they will be alot more shirtless Mark or Derek in this case. So, I’m getting sick of Val and his fans complaining that producers make him take his shirt off, like No, Val chooses to and loves it.
I’d like to see these pros for DWTS20 –
Mark
Tony
Val
Keo
Sasha/ Louis / Artem -I’d like Sasha or Louis instead, didn’t liked Artem much last season. Henry is a BIG NO, he’s got no personality.
KYM JOHNSON!!
Sharna
Witney
Emma
Peta
Allison -Even though i disliked her partnership with Jonathan or Antonio last season. She deserves another chance. But she’s too full of herself.
#46 BretndaKB — many interesting (mis)perceptions–I’ve found the cast of afterbuzz seeming more like extended members of the “fam” more so than trying to bring Val down. Suri for certain is connected
Derek–words just can’t explain the loss- hopefully there is some way to incorporate his magic somewhere in the season
Karina–probably would miss the most
Cheryl–always enjoyed her performances but never really connected with her but she has been a staple and for that fact will be missed.
Mark–Hope the Mark of S19 returns–enjoyed him so much and his creativity impressive
Val–still have hope that a change for him may happen but that is wearing thin. Athough I do think he has had celebs with great potential (not necessarily ringers compared to other pros who have been on the show) I agree that he hasn’t been matched with someone to showcase his talent and ability to bring them to a very different level than they started with. I like a bare chest now and again but it’s just too often too much and it’s not that cut–we’ve seen celebs with better packages
Old Pros
Anna–bittersweet thoughts on that one–I miss her, but since Evan (aww Evan LOVED him) haven’t really enjoyed her with anyone else while at the same time still disappointed in the freestyle she put out there that season. some of her comments on afterbuzz seemed to show some bitterness towards the show hope it hasn’t caused too much damage against a return. Guess ultimately would like her back since it’s season 20
Louis–would be nice to see back but in small doses again since it’s season 20
Lacey–would be nice to see back too–funky/fresh
New Pros–last year 3 new pros was nice and refreshing but anymore than that might be too much of a shake up.
Henry & Artem–often can’t tell the difference dressed in black with shirt open or off
Jenna just not getting a connection with her.
Sasha–too adorable love him!
Angle to get younger viewers is more likely with casting younger celebs than pros
Overall it’s S20 hope whatever changes they make it’s something “special” enough to represent the milestone and not look like a regular old season with few changes.
Really hoping to see a line up like:
Peta, Sharna, Witney, Emma, Karina, and Jenna
Val, Mark, Tony, Artem, Keo, Henry
Troupe: Lindsay, Sasha (would love to see him as pro over Keo if there is a short person), Brittney Cherry/Brooklyn (neither impress me much, but Brittney seems to have more personality), and Paul from the DWTS tour.
Please anything buy Louis, please please please
Male Pros:
Tony (only because he’s pretty much tenure)
Mark (he was at his best with Sadie, Shawn, Katherine and I actually really liked him with Candace)
Sasha (it’s a shame it’s usually a height issue that he’s not a pro as often as he should be)
Val (I would enjoy his partnerships more if it felt more natural, but he does have great routines)
Keo (I’ll give him another shot)
Tristan (since Strictly doesn’t have a spring season, perhaps he’ll be able to come back!)
Female Pros:
Emma (my new favorite, and love her personality)
Sharna (I do like a lot of her routines)
Peta (she went up in my book after seeing her partnership with Tommy Chong)
Witney (like her choreography but I would like to see her with someone more of a challenge)
Karina (always loved her and I do hope she is back)
Jenna (this one is a bit iffy, but would like to see what she could do with a celeb and if she tones it down)
Alternates:
Anna (I really loved Anna, then some of the Afterbuzz comments seemed a little bitter, BUT she won me back a little bit after she called out Tony’s win and Maks’ win on Afterbuzz. That was hilarious but hopefully didn’t ruin her chances lol)
Allison (I think she deserves a second chance, but it is still very hard to get over that mess of a samba)
Brittany Cherry (While widely trained and a really great dancer, I do think she fades in the wood works against some of those ballroom pros)
Paul Karmiryan (Be good as a troupe member first and if I had to choose between 2 short pros, I would go with Sasha)
Henry (maybe being in the troupe for another year might make him less egotistical)
I think Lacey has a better chance of coming back than Chelsie (I think remember she did an interview that might’ve screwed her chances of coming back)
Don’t want to see Artem back as I didn’t get a lot of personality from him and he should’ve done sooooo much better with Lea. I kind of think Lea got screwed because of him.
Louis I only see coming back if it’s a celeb they really want and their only request was to have him as their pro.
Brooklyn would be great as a troupe member but I would be terrified to see her as a pro because I don’t think her ballroom/latin is anywhere close to the caliber of the other pros. (except maybe allison)
LOL Miss Heidi! Thanks for what you wrote!! xx
Yep, Karina was quite irate with that story.
Did anyone see Karina’s instagram in response to that story? I’m glad she made it clear that nothing is final! I would love to see her back especially since many old pros are leaving.
For female pros I would love to see:
Karina
Whitney
Sharna
Emma
Peta (this is the first time I think I want he back and it definitely has to do with her past season with Tommy).
Kym
In bringing back and old female pro I prefer Kym and her personality. I have always thought that Anna’s choreography is a bit flat and now that the show has evolved and the pros are every season more creative I don’t know if she could match up. I’m also all for Lacey she will fit perfectly with her creative choreography.
For male pros:
Mark (Favorite pro after D)
Val (hate showmances but love his dancing)
Tristan (PLEASE)
Keo
Henry/Sacha
Louis/old pro
I did not like Artem as a pro at all. I think Lea could have done much better with any other pro y would have improved more. I also think Tony’s choreography is boring and one-dimensional and he needs a break. I’m actually sad that of all the old pros leaving Tony is the one staying.
Troupe:
Henry/Sasha (depending which one is not pro)
Artem
Lindsey (great dancer, not sure if I’m ready to give her another chance as a pro).
Jenna/Brittany (I think Jenna is a great dancer but gets lost between all the fabulous girls in the show, maybe Brittany would shine a bit more).
I have read above about an interview that Chelsie did at some time that may have ruined her chances of returning to DWTS. What did she say?
I’m really curious. I mean Maks has gotten away with saying tons of bad stuff but I guess he was popular so they let him slide. idk
Actually, most of Val’s partners perfectly fit the description of “ringer” to one extent or another. Much more so than what Maks fans have said about some of Derek’s partners, that’s for sure. I mean really – Maks/Val fans said *Joanna* was a ringer. And if she was, then all of Val’s partners are.
I just saw Mark’s backstage message on the dancingabc instagram site. Does that mean he’ll definitely be back for season 20? I really hope so. Hopefully, he’ll get a partner that he can push with the choreography and have fun.
I would also like to see Sasha join, even though it’s not likely. He is a wonderful dancer and appears super sweet.
Love Emma as well.
I’m not sure, Dee. He could be assuming. I guess I’ll put him as a yes with a question mark.
#98 PHeidi IMO Joanna from what I remember of all Derek’s partners (and I’ve watched every season he’s been on) was in no way a ringer. If anything, I think she was his most “difficult” partner in terms of talent (or lack thereof, not an insult because I have 2 left feet, am tone deaf and don’t feel the beat) and not the best personality. Let Val deal with a Joanna type who’s married so no shownance and then let’s see what he can do.
Here are the pros which I think will definitely be part of S20 🙂
Female pros: Peta,Witney,Karina,Emma,Kym
Male pros: Mark,Val,Tony,Artem
those who are left will depend on the Celebs…
It’s always hard to say for sure, but (much to my sorrow), I think Tristan is gone for good. He seemed unhappy at how things were handled when he wasn’t included in the season before last, and in particular about how it seemed like he was left off last minute (and was probably left scrambling for work afterwards). He seems happier in the UK, and is closer to his family, so that’s also a draw. But, then again, he has a producer/director/actress wife whose career may be better off in LA, so you never do know.
I do hope Sasha gets another shot at pro — he’s certainly paid his dues, and he did great with Snooki.
After reading Karina’s post I want to believe she knows her status and will be back. I just wish she could confirm it like Val did. Karina should be the first to know before anyone else. She’s earned that right. I hope TBTB aren’t playing hardball with her. She was barely around the last few seasons and deserves a contender she can take to the finals.
Wow things are heating up Derek left because he knows Vàl is # 1 OMG so funny!! Vàl can dance but neither he or his brother could even come close to Derek and his success I’m still waiting for all those movies that Maks was supposed to be doing and being a big star So much for that
I sure hope Artem is not back he is creepy and so full of himself As far as Louis returning Why? If you need a short dancer Sasha deserves another shot I think we need pros in there that can show us good dancing and something new or they will loose viewers and we don’t need Showmances!!!My fingers are crossed that Karina will be back but I know she wants a family and she can’t dance forever I will really miss her if she’s gone
I think this season will be Val’s to loose but not because of his dancing it would be because of his popularity A win because of popularity says nothing about you being a good dancer/teacher I think the only reason he beat Derek last season is because Bethany fans were younger and didn’t vote all night like Some fans do
Reading all those comments is really great entertainment 😉
I hope Mark and Val will be back. Mark’s choreography with Sadie was really amazing! Tony is a very good teacher – I hope that he will get a good partner for once!
As for the girls – I really love Sharna! Peta is a great dancer and I love her routines but she needs better costumes. Witney will be back following her success with Alfonso. Emma seems to be really sweet with everybody and therefore I would like to have her back on again.
It would be nice to see Sasha as a pro – if they can find a short partner. I think Keo and Allison should have done the troupe first… If Paul, Brittany and perhaps Serge Onik (he’s really talented!!) would join the show they need to do troupe first too. I think it gives them a better idea of how the show works.
I hope Allison won’t be back – she didn’t impress me. Also, what I’ve seen from Brooklyn – please not.
I am very excited to hear who will be back and who the celebrities are going to be.
PS: I just hope I can find some good place where I can watch the full videos (package, dance, scores). It was quite a problem seeing that I live outside the US.
#46 make me laugh so hard and I didn’t even finish reading the whole “article”. I wasn’t a big fan of Derek before. I have never come and read anything from this site until 2 seasons ago. I was probably that general audience people are referring to. With that said, I don’t think Val will ever be #1. He doesn’t have the swag Derek has, that “it” factor. Things like that comes naturally. Also, I don’t understand why many of certain fans of the c-bros always accuses this site as being rude toward their idol. For that kind of fans….let me tell you something. I came to this site because I was sick and tired of other DWTS sites or forums (including ABC) where people constantly mocking on Derek like the man has no integrity. I’m so glad Derek is on Broadway.
I would love to see Tristan and Lacey!
Has anyone noticed Keo’s instagram posts lately. Inspirational quotes like just breath I wonder if hes not dancing? Just thought I’d share.
just breathe.. Could that be a sigh of relief? I hope so, Keo deserves another shot at pro.
Speaking of instagram, Kym posted an interesting one about a mirrorball a few days ago.
Both Keo and Kym have instances that could be read into but which I don’t think are really indicative of anything just yet. Keo had an interview where he said “When I’m on next season…” but it was said in such a way that it could be wishful thinking. Plus I don’t think he’s a the level yet where he would find out this early.
As for Kym and the mirrorball?? She was in New Orleans and saw a mirrorball hanging over her head. I’m surprised we didn’t get a similar pic from all the pros. It seems like a natural, especially if you’ve won.
Dear#46: “Derek realized Val is now #1 and he left”….hahahahahahaha. Deep breath. heeheeheehee. Another deep breath. hahahahahahahahaha. Thank you PH for allowing #46 to post, because that comment was hilarious. In a perplexing, “are you kidding me?” kind of way.
Lord have mercy at that “Val is #1” comment LMAO. Made my day hahaha.
Actually, prior to last two seasons, if I were asked about Mark vs Val in terms of choreography, I would say Val, easily. After his first two weak seasons, his turkey of choreography with Kelly, Zendaya and Liz really, really impressed me. But with Danica, even though he still could whipped out great routines (that Quickstep), I felt like he’a gotten, idk, lazy? His tango that season was full of messing around and the actual dance was like only 40 seconds long. And with Janel he completely lose it for me, I was not impressed with any of his routines with her, while Mark was creative with Candace and even better with Sadie (heck, my #1 and #3 favourite dances from S19 are Sadie’s). I still want both of them to be back, though I’m having this scary feelings that Val would get paired with his what, sixth consecutive ringers? And Mark would get the young, attractive celeb with great body and natural ability yet again.
So bummed that derek isnt in this season 🙁 will miss his wonderful choreography and careful attention to his partners. I hope henry gets an upgrade from the troupe, love the way he dances, and I hope jenna finally gets the chance fo how what she can do. And I hope emma finally gets a good partner and ttly agree with the whole va pairing up with a joanna krupa thing. 🙂
The difference, Daniel, is that (since they don’t audition for the show) it’s easy for the producers to know who the ringers are – and have no idea who the dancers with natural ability are. Mark getting Sadie (and Derek getting Kellie) are just lucky draws. There was NO indication that Kellie would be a great dancer – she could easily have been a Denise Richards. Same goes for Sadie. But anyone who researches the cast knows a ringer by their resume. So, the difference between Mark and Val is luck versus planning.
Frankly, I want Mark to win again just to see the heads explode. “WTF, Derek’s gone and now MARK wins again?!?!” LOL. Eventually they’ll happen on the ringer who takes Val to the MBT, though. Just like they did with Maks.
I would like to see Mark win again. As much as I loved Alfonso and Witney I did feel back for Mark and Sadie coming in 2nd place. In my opinion, he really has made his way to the finals on his own merits. No gimmicks.
Unlike the “one trick Val brothers”, well actually “two tricks” = 1. showmance, 2. shirtless. They have made their way to the finals without confidence in their own ability to choreograph or mesh with their partners in a normal manner. Honestly, I am not looking forward to another season filled with the sweaty chest of Val on my television screen.
I couldn’t agree more with the comment from Sandy #117. Please, Val, put on your shirt. Shirtless is fine occassionally if it is appropriate for the dance. And, if it’s done sparingly and tastefully it leaves you wanting more. I just want to see less of Val’s chest.
I have a soft spot for Mark, too. And, from the one pic of him shirtless on his Instagram wouldn’t mind seeing him shirtless once or twice in season 20, if it’s appropriate for the dance of course. LOL
I always want Mark to do well because when he’s on his game and is enjoying himself, I think we all benefit from his great routines. When he’s not, it definitely leaves a hole in my viewing each week.
Louis has been relatively quiet the past few seasons I wonder why he is excited about this season? The first thing that popped into my mind is, could Sharon Osbourne be contemplating doing the show? I know she’s on another network but…. just saying.
Eh, Louis makes comments about wanting to be on the show before every season. I haven’t seen him talking about it for a week or three now. Makes me wonder.
I’m on the Mark Ballas bandwagon too. I’d love to see him win. I want to see Sharna win too.
@sandy: I would love if Sharon Osborne did the show. I kinda hate the idea of Sharon and Louis though. I feel like they would fight more than they got along.
My guesses:
– val, Mark, Tony, Artem, Paul, Keo
– Wit, Emma, Sharna, Peta, Lindsay, Jenna or new pro.
Think anna, Louis and kym may come back as especial judges
I wouldn’t count Lindsay out just yet. The girl has received lots of good praise this last season, and even if I also don’t think it would really be the case, her friendship with Witney (the new IT girl) might hold her a spot in the troupe for at least one more season.
Personally, I think Emma and Keo are getting the benefit of building fanbases because of the tour. Specially Emma, who was never in the talks like she is now.
I’d rather see Allison go, as much as I love her. Love Karina even more, but maybe it should be it for her too.
For the men, I reeeally hope they don’t give Paul a spot as pro yet. He’s good at latin and contemporary, but he did admit that he’s not formally trained in ballroom, which is still a no-no for me.
I can’t take another season with Val playing his showmance. Seriously, I can’t.
Tony is lovely and all, but I wouldn’t mind to see him leave. It wouldn’t hurt either to see him replacing Len (only) for the 21st season. He would be better than Maks, for example.
Funny thing you considered Armen Way. But he’s like Artem’s lost twin brother, and I would stick with Artem if I had to choose.
I just saw Louis’s tweet and your update. Sharna commented to him she almost dropped her phone. So with Derek in NY (and we’re seeing him!!!) Cheryl gone, Karina (?), Sharna dropping her phone, Peta not leaving for Australia and needing to be in Green Bay on 2/14, with all that if Louis is back and not Karina, Sharna and Peta, I’m seriously thinking of not watching. Sorry but I just don’t like him.
Correction to my comment above. It was a Sharna fan account not actually Sharna. So sorry for any confusion.
Why would they ask Louis back? I don’t get it. Louis is not very tall and there are much better opportunities (Henry or Sasha). Could it be that someone asked specifically for Louis? I know it sounds impossible but you never know.
My thoughts exactly, Sandy. Now, I’m even less excited about the 20th season with Louis tweeting like that and as Princess H said, sounding excited. No Derek and no Cheryl, who was truly delightful the past few seasons. No one else is back 100% except Val. I am hoping that Karina will be back and make the coming season her swan song. Sigh!
@nobleze – Makes me wonder if it’s someone relatively big. Otherwise, why bring him back. I mentioned the other day the possibility of someone big like Sharon Osbourne.
Could Louis possibly be paired with Rosanne Barr? I just watched a clip from November of Rosanne on “The Talk” with Sharon Osbourne (Kelly was on the show) and Sarah Gilbert (her sister Melissa was on the show). Plus her latest tweet… and now Louis seems fairly confident he’s on the show and I can’t imagine him with a young celebrity. Wow if so, he hit the jackpot!
Oh dear. I’m going to try and refrain from what I’m thinking too. I just can’t even imagine him being a pro again with the kind of talent we see in the others.
On the positive, if he’s back, I hope Court and Heidi will get the Cheesecake fired back up again. Could be fun. lol
No please no Louis, he was so rude on the all star season, and we don’t need anymore big male egos. I know Kendra may not be the best mouth to get reliable facts from lol, but the fact that she said that she didn’t enjoy dwts too much because all Louis cared about is winning says something. I’m just confused why they are going to Louis, does he some connection with the new producer or celebrity, it’s just so many better pros dwts could have took a chance on Paul and Sasha are just two. I just hope Louis isn’t the “Derek’s replacement” psssh
I know I’m in the minority here… 🙂 (Love you all!)… but if I had to choose.. I’d much rather have Louis on the show then have to endure another Val showmance/shirtless season. I’m so over Val.
When you put it that way, Sandy, DITTO!!
My dream DWTS Celeb is pregnant and Louis may come back? Not looking good for me.
LOL! #135 – Sandy, thanks for the laugh. 😀
#135 Sandy As much as I dislike Louis (and that’s a lot) I have to agree. But they better have some good celebs and bring back other pros or I’m gone. Louis is just so obnoxious. I remember Mark and him coaching some young dancers a while back and his gloating over beating Mark. So childish and unprofessional. And thx for laugh!
Peta is on her way to Australia, but I don’t see how that has anything to do with anything. I feel pretty sure that she will be on the show.
The idea of Louis with Roseanne Barr is a good one. She’s older so they would look for an older pro to pair her with. Louis fits the bill plus there may be some connection there with the Osbornes, etc.
Cheesecake really only works well if there is a results show – that’s where most of the cheese lives. 😉
Angela’s post made me depressed. No Derek to balance all that outsized male ego in Louis and Val (and Henry and Artem)?? Well, we will have a lot to make fun of, for sure. As for “why Louis” – Sandy’s explanation is the best one I’ve heard, besides the whole “10 year anniversary” thing.
And Sandy – unfortunately, we’re going to have BOTH. If it was one or the other, I might agree with you. But all together?? :::sigh:::
This is kind of out of left field, but do you think Louis could be doing something on the show that isn’t exactly a pro? I’m not sure what it would be, but I’m not sure about the prospect of him being a pro. Maybe they’re going to have older pro mentors come in for the season because it’s 10th anniversary?
Do you guys think Louis got back in ABC’s good graces because he (and Chelsie and Dmitry) did SWDOI with Maks and Sharna?
I know that’s random, but it seemed random to me that they did SWDOI in the first place.
maybe Louis and Kym are the only chosen old pros to comeback…
What the hell is SWDOI and why would ABC or DWTS care about it at all? If it isn’t owned by them, they probably don’t care about it – unless it is infringing on something they own.
Pats, considering the fact that there are very few spots for Pros, only two can probably come back to begin with.
#140 Princess Heidi. Peta going to Australia for 9 days (?) and judging in Green Bay on 2/14. My “guess” is she is in along with Witney, Emma & Sharna. But that’s just my guess
PH: The Shall We Dance on Ice thing with Meryl & Charlie and Maks & Sharna that airs on ABC later this month. Louis, Chelsie and Dmitry are in it as well. As I said, just a random thought.
It could be as simple as Louis is available and kissed the new higher ups asses. Or just a 10th anniversary thing.
Or it’s just nothing at all. Just speculating.
@CM – Very interesting! I knew nothing about The Shall We Dance on Ice thing..
Doubt if Louis was on there “must have” pro radar for this season, but if a “gotta have” celeb requested him… Then he’s “IN”.
I don’t think any celeb requested him I’d be surprised if any celeb knows who he is anymore. I just think the producers are desperate to bring back a couple of old faces as pros for this season only. Louis sounds like he’s been desperate to get back in for a while and from what I’m reading it looks like he’s finally got in. I think they see him as an old face that viewers can relate to without Derek, likewise on the female side where I can definately see Kym coming in to replace Cheryl. It’s harsh on troupe members like Jenna and Lindsay though who must have thought they had a real chance of making pro this season, especially Jenna. I know if I was a troupe member working my arse off in past seasons only to be overlooked for someone like Louis who has obviously arselicked his way back in despite turning his back on the company in the past, I’d feel really pissed off.
Tristan was described as ‘returning’ to DWTS in ‘the NewYear’ in an interview a couple of days before Christmas (and that he hopes to be back on SCD next season, too).
Sorry, went to find the quote and posted in error. Here it is……
>He said he had appeared on six seasons of the American version of Strictly Come Dancing – Dancing With The Stars – and will be returning there in the new year.
“We will see how that goes,” he said.
He is also hoping to be back on Strictly Come Dancing next year.<
(From Grimsby Telegraph)
I remember that as well Jaycee. Tristan finishes the SCD live tour on Feb 9th. The only question mark is whether he’d be coming back for a one of performance, as part of a troupe or actually as a pro with a celeb. I don’t know what the rules are regarding him dancing as a pro on DWTS whilst still on the books of SCD. Whatever he does it’ll only be for this season as he’s now a fully fledged SCD pro now. So in short, hands off for future seasons USA he’s ours now 😉
Why would he add “We will see how that goes” if he was for sure coming back? Sounds to me like he’s made himself available if they want him back.
There are only 5 or 6 male spots. Baring something odd, those spots are: Val, Mark and Tony almost certainly. That leaves Derek’s vacancy, Keo and Artem. It could be there is only one opening. Maybe there’s two or three. So, all these men people want added (or added back) – someone’s definitely not going to get what they want. Unless…
Unless TPTB foolishly go the 16 celeb route again. HUGE MISTAKE. Don’t do it, kids. Last time was horrible. 16 couples in only a 2 hour show? It was bad enough when there were 13 45-second dances.
I am starting to wonder if Louis returning to DWTS was part of some out of court settlement agreement between BWAT and the show since there has not been anything published about the lawsuit since it began…something like if Louis can come back on the show as a pro then BWAT won’t contract with ineligible people (ie. Val, Emma, Jenna, etc.)
purely a thought but I was trying to think of reasons that the show would actually bring back someone like Louis who wasn’t overly popular like Maks.
Nah, Meghan, it doesn’t work that way. DWTS presumably has contracts that say they can make their pros NOT do BWAT if they choose. There is no bargaining to it. It’s more like “stop doing ‘A’ or we will take you for everything you have”. I thought I read, anyway, that they settled the lawsuit – BWAT did, I mean, by saying sorry and changing shit up.
Anyway, why would they bargain for Louis when he’s been desperate to come back since he was let go?
Based on what Emma has said (it’s going to be HUGE), Anna and Louis hinting, what people have said that Tristan has said, I wonder if there’s going to be a ton of celebs and they need all their old pros and their new ones. The old ones celebrate the big anniversary and the new ones are just the new blood.
I don’t think they will go the 16-celeb route, but I can see them going with 14 celebs, considering that this is the 10th anniversary special season. Maybe last season’s 13 couples was a test for 14 for this season? I agree that 16 celebs is stupid (unless they can get their hands on another half-hour for a couple of weeks), but 14 could work…
Neither 13 or 14 couples is a new thing on this show Aviva. They don’t need to test it out.
In the past with these numbers they have split the performances over two nights. Really, 13 was too many for one night. 45 second dànces just piss me off.
I could care less if I ever saw LVA on DWTS again. His ego is worse than Maks’.
That said, I hope Mark wins another MBT before Val ever gets 1…Sharna and Emma too!
M8 I don’t see how any troupe member has the right to feel entitled to a teaching pro spot. Sure, a few have moved into that role, but many have been let go/replaced over time. I would guess that those young dancers are thrilled to have a well paying job on one of the most watched tv shows, and I remember Lindsay expressing on afterbuzz that she liked dancing with the troupe because people could see that she could actually dance. She still wants/needs that validation of her own dance skill. Of course, I’ll be a hypocrite and say I think Sasha deserves a spot. But that’s because I think he did such a super job with Nicole.
And while I personally would take at least Sasha over LVA, I think Kym isn’t comparable. She’s a proven, from what I’ve read here from inside sources, the producers love her because she’s no drama, gets the job done happily…and she’s proven herself to do right by her less than talented celebs and by the ones who have contender potential, hello 2 US dwts mirror balls.
Someone tweeted at peta saying she should be partners with a patriots player and she responded saying that be interesting. Also her and val are on the season 20 promo posters there’s no way she isn’t coming back I feel.
I am ready for them to bring Anna back I have really missed her and her fiery personality and girl can DANCE! Haha! But if the rumors are true I would love to see her with RFK Jr.! I think it’d be a fun partnership!
@Carolyn, being on the promo posters is NOT an indication that a pro is definitely coming back. I think Edyta and Chelsie were both on promo posters, and didn’t come back.
However, I will be surprised if she isn’t back.
Carolyn, that’s what I was thinking too. But Peta did post the photo on her instagram with a long story about how she would be honoured to be back, etc. So she is being diplomatic. Val on the other hand also posted the photo and sounds like he is ready to do amazing things etc.. this season. Gotta laugh.
I think that the “reached out to” comment is a bit strange, especially as far as Tristan and Kym goes. I read somewhere that the last year (they did say “year” and not “season”) of Kym’s contract was “put on hold” for her to do the Australian version. That said, SCD and DWTS are both done by the BBC – so I think the pros are under contract with BBC (technically, BBC Worldwide). Seems to me like the BBC has the power to put the chess pieces on the board anywhere they want – whether it’s in the UK, or the US. Since there’s a lot more money to be made in the US…
I figure Louis and Anna have been gone long enough that they probably have some choice in the matter, but neither of them would be stupid enough to turn down a shot to get back on a top-10 prime time show. Anyway, JMO – I just figure the BBC is holding all the cards, and the pros are going to go where BBC Worldwide wants them to go.
#160 Carolyn Of course Peta would say it would be interesting. She couldn’t say anything else, it would be rude to a “potential” celeb. She also said she’d be honored like Princess Heidi said but I would be surprised if she’s not back. I know they say some know and others don’t, but with Val, Tony (from what I gather he has a lifetime guarantee-GAG) and apparently Sharna all knowing, I think Peta does also. With each season I just believe less and less of what TPTB say.
I was thinking about it today and I wonder if they could get Alec back instead of Louis. Now that would a great surprise.
While it’d be great, I think Edyta & Alec burned those bridges hotly, so I think of all former pros they are the least likely to ever return. Never say never, but I’ll be shocked if it happens.
Peta did mention on instagram that she got the call or something like that.
Alec is great eye candy, but that’s about it. His personality is bland and boring. But I would love to see Edyta dancing again.
Peta definitely deserves to come back. She completely won me over with Tommy.
Off topic, my sister just told me Val and Janel unfollowed one another on twitter and istagram. That’s so funny. Maybe Val’s getting ready for another showmance.
@Ananya – Your hunch about Val is too funny! Unfortunately you may be right. Thanks for my morning laugh.
Yeah, I’ve been reading about the Val/Janel thing in the twitter searches for a while now. She dropped out of the tour completely – remember she was supposed to be at a couple stops. Don’t know if that was because of some fight or the reason there’s a fight. Apparently, according to those wacko shippers, Val has been “throwing shade” at Janel with indirect tweets. Which is sooo typical of your average C-bro when you think about it. They can’t keep their shit to themselves and they’re always the wronged party. :::rolls eyes::: I was just saying on twitter the other day that I was watching the result of a showmance gone bad in the searches. Janel is supposedly back with her bf and some of the little shipper nuts are harassing him on twitter, and harassing Janel to “make up” with Val. It’s all quite sick. And I don’t mean in a good way. 🙂
That is too funny! Janel and Val were probably the pairing that I though would get along so well after the show was over too. I have to agree with post 170 and assume that another showmance is on the horizon for him. I hope isn’t like this with his real romantic relationships.
It never fails every season I think I might give Val another chance and without fail he ruins everything before showtime. For once, I wish he would be partnered with a klunker… and let’s see what he’s made of as far as choreography and their journey together. No gimmicks.
Bet the producers are livid Janel pulled out the tour. That was probably the main reason why they pushed so hard for her to get to the final. If they knew this was going to happen they’d have probably let her get eliminated in that week Michael Waltrip went out instead of manipulating it to give her a free immunity pass. Karma for you!
I feel like the big push on the part of the producers for Val and janel was in the same vein as Meryl and maks but they had to work harder to ensure she stuck around becuase well the viewers caught on lol. M8 makes a good point though. If they knew she was going to do that they probably wouldn’t have cared if she got eliminated.
Idk for me Meryl and Maks did ooze chemistry together (a good one at that), but Val and Janel’s supposed “chemistry” never felt anything other than forced to me (just want to point that out).
I also WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with whoever that said it that I can’t stand the view of Val’s (and Artem’s) sweaty chest(s) any longer. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if they went on shirtless/open trousers for every dances next season. At least Dmitry wore a rumba shirt when dancing the VW with Mya lol.
Time is fast approaching. Let’s vote for your male and female favourite pro for season 20.
Er, Cheryl? Who are you and why are you asking us to vote?
ETA: Never mind – I see you are, like, five different people under one IP. Sockpuppeting ain’t cool.
I just saw the post on @dwtsgossip to ‘expect new pro dancers.’
Of course I start going crazy analytical. Like if they bump troupers up, they aren’t really new bc all but Jenna have had a season as a pro. And if they bring back Louis/anna/Kym/Tristan, those aren’t new dancers. …..hmmm. Brain on overload.
I am wondering if this means Brittany Cherry? Maybe Paul? I really don’t know. I guess too that they could be talking about new troupers. IDK
Seriously though, if Keo is not back as pro I am going to throw a hissy fit. Just sayin
I really hope they aren’t going to hose Artem either.
Can I also go on record that if they make Jaymz a pro, I am going to scream. Watch him dancing to the Jennifer Hudson performance. Buff said
Oops! Meant Nuff said!
I hadn’t even been thinking about Paul K. but I think he would be a great one to take for a test drive this season. He could be super. I’d rather see him get a chance over a return performance by either Artem or Keo. (Not that we got to see a lot of Keo as a coach. If I had to pick, I’d definitely pick Keo over Artem.)
I just saw a commercial on ABC for tomorrow’s GMA. They said “We’ve got a dwts announcement SO BIG you’ll say OH MY!” Do you think it’s just about the pro line-up or something more?
Hmm “oh my” is that a clue about George Takei? That’d be awesome.
I would love if DWTS pulled off the impossible by making the cast announcement tomorrow and the “pros announcement” was just a cover-up to prevent spoilers. George Takei would be a great get especially bc they keep hinting at something big and they really need to step it up for season 20/10th anniversary
George would be a great get. An added bonus: maybe some Star Trek people on the audience.
I remember last season when they did the pro announcements they actually had a few of the pros in the studio to help with the announcement (Val, Tony, and Cheryl?) but this time I don’t think any of the likely pros will be available to be a part of the announcement- except maybe Sharna. Val, Tony, Peta, and Witney are all either on tour somewhere or out of the country.
Very curious to see what will happen tomorrow.
It seems odd that a lot of the old pros were making noise about being on a kind of wait list to come back and yet the producers keep talking about making DWTS newer. Nothing against Louis or Anna or Kym but bringing them back wouldn’t be anything new.
Well, the GMA twitter did tweet to use the hashtag #GMADancing to ask the pros questions, so we know that at least some of them will be there.
188 — Could be true! Though they could also have them participating online from anywhere at all, so we shall see. DWTS Live Tour will be in San Jose tomorrow, so no way can they be in NY — too much of a trek to get back, IMO.
According to Karina’s instagram post, she’s not participating in this season. 🙁
I read a few articles recently rumoring that ROSS LYNCH may or may not have been asked to be apart of the season 20 celebrity line up!!! If this is true and they asked him & he said YES to be on the show, I really hope he’s paired with Witney!!! I know what your thinking, “oh well wasn’t she with Cody on season 18 who’s kinda similar to Ross with the the whole young, blonde,singer, teen hearthorb thing going on?” Well yeah they are similar in that way, but hopefully If this does happen (WHICH I PRAY IT DOES, FINGERS CROSSED) I hope he does well in the Latin & standardized ballroom dances and doesn’t have the same posture and technique problem that Cody was trying to break out of but didn’t really get. Hopefully he’ll last longer than Cody did and Ross does have the Hough’s blood running through his veins after all, (he’s julianne and Derek’s cousin) so hopefully he’ll have all the right moves and charisma like His cuz, Derek;)
What did I say about running over here to tell us what’s going on?? By my count it’s been 13 minutes since she posted.
A. We know who Ross is and that he’s Derek’s cousin.
B. The ONLY articles that have mentioned Ross have been less than reliable in the past and have a tendency to report what the fans want. This does not make it a rumor, it makes it wishful thinking.
I doubt very much that he’s going to be on the show, but we’ll have to wait and see. He’s certainly popular, he works for Disney (which means he’ll be pimped to high heaven, whether he deserves it or not) – and they certainly have to try for Disney people every season. Would not be surprised to find out it’s a rule.
Cheryl and Derek and now Karina! Unreal!! I just don’t know what to think anymore?
Me too Vogue. Me too. I’m not sure I’m liking this.
If Kym returns she may lighten my feelings a little. But other than her, I can’t see anyone else stepping in to ease the pain of losing these 3 long standing pros.
I agree Heidi! Rydel Lynch is also a possibility….
https://www.puredwts.comwanting-to-dance//2014/12/01/dwts-season-20-watch-out-rydel-lynch-of-r5-mentions-
I know what you mean, Sandy! This is getting really hard.
@PrincessHeidi I know who Ross is, you know who Ross is, but some people who watch the show may not know who he since DWTS does have more of an older democratic and yeah we’ll have to wait and see, but I really hope he’s on 🙂
Wow Not feeling too confident not that we are losing Karina.
I am hoping to see Tristan and Lacey Kym would be great also.
Kym has to be a lock in now for Karina’s spot, has to be! This may have also saved Allison from getting cut. Of course we’ll never know that and it’s pure speculation at this point without knowing the confirmed lineup, but it defo wouldn’t surprise me now to see Allison back.
So sorry to hear about Karina, although it has been suggested as a possibility. She, like Cheryl and Derek, were professional inside and out regardless of their celebrity partners and the circumstances they were in each season. They will all be missed.
Sucks to hear Karina is out. With Cheryl and Derek gone I’m getting lots of sad feels.
If Kym and/or Tristan come back, however, I’ll be cheered up. I’m also kinda hoping for a miracle and have Lacey back as a pro. I’ve always loved her personality (and her dancing of course). C
Not sure if I’m looking forward to tomorrow or not.. still anxious though!
I just hope that those pros returning realize the show is about the celebs and not their tantrums or desire to win the mirror ball for themselves. It will be interesting to see just how many veterans, if any, return and how many young ones are promoted.
I wouldn’t mind the return of Lacey, her season being partnered with Kyle was spectacular.
Since Derek, Cheryl and Karina appear to actually have work and projects going on instead of just vaguely talking about all the big things they’re doing, I assume we won’t see them hanging around the show every week trying to stay relevant. 😉
Wow… I’m so disappointed in the loss of Karina, however I can’t be upset, because she deserves the chance to take on every opportunity thrown her way just like Derek. I’m not going to be surprised to hear both Kym and Anna’s names tomorrow since for the ladies there really are no more long time pros left. I would also love to hear Lacey’s name as a pro tomorrow. Man why did everyone have to bow out in the same season.
We’re not just “people who watch the show” here.
Derek will be on the other side of the country, Donna, at least for most of the season. Cheryl and Karina both seem to have plenty to do. 🙂
I think it’s more interesting to see which pros are coming back than who the stars will be for this coming season 🙂 I seriously don’t remember Louis at all, he wasn’t a memorable dancer to me. If he’s in I don’t know why DWTS want him back. I hope they give Keo another chance, he was out too soon and viewers didn’t really get a chance to see his talent as a pro. Btw, why does Val has this new obsession with his violin? It’s like saying “hey guys, I know how to play instrument too, you know” Maybe he just doesn’t want to feel left out as someone with many talents, say like Derek 😉 I know Derek plays guitar,piano,drum, etc through a backstage videos or through his fans…not in-your-face-show-off type of thing. I wish I can have a break from Val and his ringer and showmance but I can always do a little “break” when he’s on 🙂
We actually need Kym a good bit, IMO. Derek was/is a calming, positive, professional person – as are Karina and Cheryl (usually, in Cheryl’s case). Without those three, I look at the lineup and start to get worried. Don’t need to see an arrogant “family” takeover. Where it’s all about “ME”. We need Kym and Tristan. We don’t need Louis, when we already have the likes of Val, Artem and Henry (provided they are all around in some capacity).
Ugh. Well, if nothing else, this season could make for some interesting blogging. I’m still thinking about a series called “Shit ___ says.” It was going to be “Shit Erin Says” but then she got her act together. It’s a more negative take on the Cheesecake Awards. 😀
LOL Miss Heidi! I love your new blogging ideas!! They give me hope because as of right now, bringing back older pros don’t excite too much except for Kym and Tristan. I think I’d rather have brand new pros we’ve never heard of before they take Anna, Louis, and Lacey, etc.
I hope and pray that we are not getting a surprise return of Maks.
#212 Thomas he has all kinds of things going on like……um…well…….uh oh. LOL
Thomas, it wouldn’t surprise me to see that happen.
Who just saw Lizzy’s Tweet about Artne?
I am really disappointed to see Karina’s news. She has been one of my favorite female pros for a long time.
I am really disappointed about Karina not coming back this season, she’s been my favorite pro dancer for years and always enjoyed her because she is an amazing dancer and one of the best females ever in dancesport.
Like some of you mentioned, I feel like the “fam” is going to take over the show and I’d hate to see that happen. I just get this bad vibe from Peta, Val, Henry, and Artem (Peta not so much last season but we’ll see if she’ll sex it up again).
I hope Kym comes back and Tristan, especially since Derrick, Karina, and Cheryl are leaving.
I guess we’ll see tomorrow
Omg, Lizzie Grubman has only one style of p.r. She can’t keep her mouth shut and act professional. Hopefully Artem is in the troupe but it looks like he is on the show. That woman is so subtle!
Wishing all the best to Karina in her future endeavors!
#218 Judy she gets away with it because there are never any consequences. I thought many times Maks should’ve taken a hit when she gave stuff away about him being on before it was announced but he never did. And since he’s her only long-term client who obviously has no intention of leaving her, what does she have to worry about by acting unprofessional? Him not getting work? That apparently isn’t an issue for either one of them. And what are they going to do now, not have Artem on because Lizzie has a big mouth? She’s not his rep. It should come back to haunt Tony, the one client she does have who’s still on the show. But it won’t. This is why she’s got the reputation she does, and why she can’t keep any other clients.
Well I’m not the least bit excited about creepy Artem or even Allison returning. I felt a disconnect with both of their partnerships last season. With the lose of Derek, Cheryl and now Karina this season may be heading downhill pretty quick for me. And if Keo is NOT returning I am going to be pissed.
WOW! Can’t believe the Producers are doing a season sans Derek, Cheryl and Karina…3 of the most beloved Pros EVER!!! Smh…..unless they have a killer celeb line-up, or someone I really want to see dance, I don’t even know if I’m gonna watch S20 :/
Lizzie is about as subtle as a sledgehammer, huh? Sad about Karina, but very excited that it could signal Kym’s return. She’s been gone too long, imo. Agreed about NOT wanting a ‘family’ takeover. Iiiiish.
So sad that Karina’s out this season, especially that Derek and Cheryl won’t be on this season. I’m not sure if I want to tune in or maybe I’d just come here to read articles and comments. I also say NO to “fam takeover.” Sigh! Seems my wish not to see Artem back as pro isn’t granted. I don’t want him or Henry as pros; I’m okay with them in the troupe. If these two dudes are in, then I hope (really hard) that both Kym and Tristan are back.
My heart just broke a little when I read Karina’s news. Of course I’m happy for her and only wish her the very best, but I was still hoping hoping hoping that she would be on this season and every season until the end. Her dancing is sublime and she’s so kind and positive no matter who her partner.
I know you don’t like people posting it in the comments but how about Emma’s post, saying “we miss u Val, Mark, and Keo” Are they in NY? Val confirmed he’s there. So hopefully this means yes for Mark and Keo, since they seem to be announcing the pros.
I saw that last night, Angela, but thought “Why the guys and not Emma or Witney??” Plus Mark has been absent a lot from their activities. It could be that, but I didn’t really want to assume that much.
I was literally away from the net in a blink of an eye and now Karina’s out too? Noooooo my Holy trinity of Karina, Jules and Kym are all gone now! Sigh. Pleaseeeeee Kym be back, I miss your positivity even more now. I wished Karina would had a great partner this season and making it to the finals on her swan song, but it’s not going to happen now. Double sigh.
Also after Princess Heidi mentioned it, now I think about the pros rooster and I’m worried as well. Without Derek, Karina and Cheryl (who were truly the three pros I really enjoyed watching last season), it’s just not going to be the same. But at least make it up with Tristan and Kym, please.
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I’m really sad that that Derek is gone for this season… Without him on the show it will just be a competition on who will win and not about who will make the most beautiful dance. That is what the show is supposed to be about. Not who wins but who dances the best, who makes us dream when they dance. Well, I hope Val will change his behaviour. I think that he is too much influenced by his brother. He should’nt be.
Gleb is doing DWTS Russia so he’s out. Not sure if Tristan renewed for SCD or not.
We’re live blogging the the Pro announcement here: https://www.puredwts.com/2015/02/11/dwts-season-20-professional-dancer-announcement-live-blog/
SCD is irrelevant right now. It’s not on again until fall.