DWTS Season 13, Week 6 – Dancing by the Numbers
Well, another season, another mis-placed Maks blow up. Oy veh. It’s a shame – he had me until the sky box. Where he lost me. And then he apparently unfollows Derek because Derek speaks his mind for a change?? Hypocrisy, thy name is Maks. Dude, if you want the freedom to speak your mind, you have to give the same freedom to everyone else. I find it most shocking of all that he doesn’t SEE all this. Any thinking being would say, well, he’s free to air his opinions, good or bad. And that’s true. But where does it say that he gets that freedom, yet Derek (or Len, or Carrie Ann or Karina or Bruno) doesn’t? And, if you’re going to air your opinions loudly on TV, you have to take the responses you get, good and bad. We all do. Instead, he un-follows Derek and his fans lambaste Derek on twitter – um, who was the ass on TV again?? Hint: it wasn’t Derek. Or Karina. Or JR. Or Nancy – all of whom expressed opinions similar to Derek’s, or at least displeasure.
Were the judges badly behaved? Bruno was, in his comments to Chaz, whose feelings I think were terribly hurt. It’s a cumulative effect – there’s only so long you can take those comments. I don’t think Len deserved what he got. We’ve all discussed how the judges can suck – but we’ve known this for YEARS. For the love of god, this isn’t new and the complainers have certainly benefited from them being wacky in the past – and will in the future, most likely. There is a lot to be said for professionalism…and as Maks himself said, he’s been on the show long enough to know how this game works. Or he should.
Unfortunately, Maks will likely come out the winner in all this. Gain followers through controversy, gain sympathy votes, gain another week – maybe even gain a role in Dirty Dancing for being a complete ass, since the director was in the audience. Mission accomplished?? We’ll see.
As for the rest of the cast? Well, the cynical side of me wonders if Maks does this with half a mind to getting attention for him and Hope because the rest of them seem to be an afterthought, with the exception of Derek and his brouhaha. Have a bad dance and need votes?? Instigate massive, attention getting fight, thus getting your fans all riled up on your behalf.
Seriously – conspiracy theories generally don’t fly with me. Occam’s Razor – the simplest explanation is likely the correct one (in a nutshell). He was probably just having a blow after bottling it in for years (um, theoretically?). :-) Just a momentary flight of fancy on my part. I do think that Evaine and her sparkle/glitter crew need to give Maks a twirl and a glitter shower. I think she’s up for the task.
Apart from the blow out, Hope certainly got the personality of the dance right – and I actually liked her more last night than I have before. But the girl is not a great dancer, no matter what Maks is trying to sell. I don’t think the judges were that far off the mark, personally.
Nancy!! Hurray for Nancy!! Don’t think she deserved a 9, but Len balanced it out. Of course, that damn song is stuck in my head forever now. And I’m whistling a lot. Hurray for Tristan too – that was some nice, bright, choreography. I think they both had a breakthrough.
Ricki and JR – both fantastic dances. My only concern is the same as it always is – the top of the leaderboard, combined with a massive fight between another couple and the judges, can lead to a lack of votes for other dancers – just through sheer neglect. I don’t think either of them will be in trouble, but it could spell trouble for someone like David or Nancy.
David, Rob and Chaz – I’ll be honest and say that I don’t remember much about their dances. Is the dance the problem or everything that followed? Hard to say. Oh, but go back and watch over Tom’s shoulder in the third tier of seats – before Chaz dances. Hilarious. Anyway, enough blather.
Let’s look at the numbers.
The Judges Scores and Percentages
| Place | Celebrity | Score | Percentage |
| 1. | Ricki | 29 | 17.47 |
| 2. | JR | 29 | 17.47 |
| 2. | Nancy | 24 | 14.46 |
| 4. | David | 23 | 13.86 |
| 4. | Rob | 22 | 13.25 |
| 6. | Hope | 20 | 12.05 |
| 7. | Chaz | 19 | 11.45 |
I think it’s safe to say that JR and Ricki are safe. Even the frightening prospect of being neglected in the face of controversy is tempered by the seriously HUGE number of votes that everyone else would have to get for one of them to go home. But who’s really in danger?? Lord, if I only knew.
That blow up throws everything into disarray. You can’t gauge how the average viewer is going to view that. Then you have Derek fans pissed off, Maks fans pissed off, Chaz fans pissed off, Karina, JR and Nancy all on the same page as Derek, Chaz has hurt feelings….how does all this play into that relatively tight packed group below Ricki and JR?
Crap shoot.
Anyway, let’s start with the low man on the totem pole, Chaz. What does he need to do to stick around for another week?? He needs ONE of the following things:
- He needs 6,024 more votes per million votes cast than Hope, OR;
- He needs 18,100 more votes per million votes cast than Rob, OR;
- He needs 24,100 more votes per million votes cast than David, OR;
- He needs 30,150 more votes per million votes cast than Nancy, OR;
- He needs 60,240 more votes per million votes cast than either JR or Ricki.
So, what do you wager the size of Chaz’s fanbase is?? If he stays over Hope, then we still have no clear idea. Six thousand votes isn’t all that much. However, if either David or Nancy go home, you’ll have your answer – it’s serious. Rob is in the middle – not a huge number, but not small either. Let’s pretend that Chaz beats Hope. What does Hope then need to stick around?? She needs ONE of the following:
- She needs 12,050 more votes per million votes cast to stay over Rob, OR;
- She needs 18,075 more votes per million votes cast to stay over David, OR;
- She needs 24,100 more votes per million votes cast to stay over Nancy, OR;
- She needs 54,220 more votes per million votes cast to stay over Ricki OR JR.
Hmmm…those are slightly larger numbers. No idea. Let’s carry this through a bit farther and see how it shakes out. If Chaz got a lot of votes and Hope got a lot of votes, Rob is next in line. What does he need in order to stay another week (besides keeping the harpies at home)? He needs ONE of the following:
- Either Chaz or Hope doesn’t get the votes to pass him, OR;
- Rob gets 6,025 more votes per million votes cast than David, OR;
- Rob gets 12,050 more vote per million votes cast than Nancy, OR;
- Rob gets 42,250 more votes per million votes cast than either JR or Ricki.
Okay, so based on the people we discuss above I have to say that I think Nancy is safe. I’ll be shocked if I’m wrong on this one, but look at the votes the people below her have to get for her to go home. Chaz needs more than 30k, Hope needs more than 24k and Rob would need more than 12K. Then there’s David, he needs more too. I think Nancy’s dance was fun – and I’ll admit that I’m biased toward anything including Spamalot – and she and Tristan both had a breakthrough of sorts. My gut says she’s safe along with Ricki and JR.
Anyway, back to David. If Chaz, Hope and Rob all get the votes they need, David goes home unless he gets ONE of the following:
- David gets 6,025 more votes per million votes cast than Nancy, OR;
- David gets 36,200 more votes per million votes cast than either Ricki OR JR.
He’s pretty close to Nancy, but I’m not sure I see that happening. This is the guy that was in a real bottom two at one point and there are plenty of people still annoyed with him. But do I think he’ll go home?? Not really.
I think at the end of the day it’s between Hope and Chaz, with Rob a possible casualty due to the nasty air around Chaz and Hope. Although that could apply to any of them, really. Whenever the judges hurt someone’s feelings or get in a fight with a couple, people have a tendency to rally around that person, whether it was warranted or not. That puts Rob, David and Nancy in some danger. Or, does the sympathy vote get split between Chaz and Hope??
My gut instinct is that Chaz gets the paltry 6k that he needs to stay over Hope and that Hope goes home, but if I’m being perfectly honest, only JR or Ricki leaving would surprise me at this point.








Well, I’ll make one of my few comments this week here. Sadly (for me, OK, I’m being selfish) I think it will be Hope and Maks going home. And I think Chaz might have more staying power than a lot of people think.
That being said, I’m ALWAYS up for giving Maks any kind of shower he wants. *g*
Glitter and sparkles, babies!!!
I read on twitter last night that Kim K tweeted Rob’s phone number with Justin Bieber’s name….. Hmmmm. But I’m not gonna blame Rob for something his sister did. I liked Rob’s dance and want him to stay another week.
I really hope Maks and Hope stay another week and Rob leaves
I keep forgetting Rob is a Kardashian. And then his mother or a sister shows up on the screen and I scream. I’m starting to have the same reaction to his mother as I had to Sarah Palin. Can. Not. Stand. Her. Yes, I know that is why he’s on the show in the first place but, jeez, if one positive thing comes out of this, he might carve out a life.
I have to wonder…if Hope & Maks stick around another week, are Maks’ comments going to create friction between him and the other pros (or even celebs) that he gets put on a team with next week for the team dance? Honestly, after all this brouhaha, I can’t imagine them putting him on a team with Derek…or Karina, for obvious reasons. It’s a bit of a lose/lose situation for Maks, methinks – he either has to swallow his pride and play nice with Derek and/or Karina, or get stuck on the undoubtedly weaker team, if he refuses to work with Derek or Karina, who have the strongest celebs this season. I’m thinking they may pick JR & Karina as the team captains, and have them pick teams…which should prove very interesting. Sounds like his rant could potentially send some shockwaves through the next few weeks….
Derek is a suck up who always gets his way with this show. A lot of people are tired of it. He never gets put in jeopardy, or has to dance first and always gets the most talented partner. A lot of people watch this show would like to see the other pros get a fair shake and proper judging.
erendira, just go away. *throws glitter bomb*
Team Maks!!!!!!
I was watching last night with my mother, both our jaws dropped when Maks went into rant mode. HE was way out of line in dealing with both the judges and to his partner in rehearsals.
Maks has said that he wants to win, last night showed why he hasn’t and probably never will win. I think he’d benefit from a season off or two.
One more thing, if Hope goes home tonight I think that the blame can be put directly on Maks!
Glitter bomb?? LOL
Evaine….are you talking porn now. “any kind of shower”??? Ummmmm hmmmmm.
Maks has taken a calculated risk…that’s my opinion. for him, as Kenny Ortega was there…so he showed he can be dramatic and that no one puts Hope in the corner…and for Hope too, because he was sure she couldn’t survive another week on her dancing…so he hoped she would survive on the sympathy votes…which i do believe it will happen. Derek decided to follow his won advice and stopped being so freaking politically correct…everybody gets the right to his own opinion…and i do believe Derek was right (so were Karina, JR, Nancy) . I do think this controversy unfairly takes away the merits of JR and Ricki as i would like more to talk about their great dancing then about Maks’s meltdown…and i do believe that it’s time for Chaz to go home…but i doubt that that will happen..in danger are David and Nancy.
Moi??? *adjusts halo*
(And the 12-year old boy that lives in the back of my head is snickering now. *g*)
You mean JR and Ricki, Court?? They would likely be team captains. Wanna bet Hope is picked last??
Derek is a much bigger man than that – I don’t think there will be issues on his side, but it could cause them to lose if Maks is on that team. Derek usually takes the lead for choreo – I can see some taking issue with that. If Derek and Kym are on a team together, I don’t think they can lose – but throw in Hope?? I dunno. Could be interesting either way, if they go with the usual team captains.
Put Maks and Lacey on a team together.
Maks is going to have trouble either team because Karina said the same thing as Derek.
One of my friends tells me that Maks also unfollowed Louis because Louis echoed Derek. What, is he 5?? My way or the highway??
I just watched again and saw that woman behind Tom as he introduced Chaz and Lacy. A CLASSIC!!!
Maks needs to mature. The show doesn’t revolve around him and how much more knowledge he has in ballroom dancing than Carrie Ann and Bruno. Unfollowing Derek and Louis? That’s childish. They have high expectations for Hope but I have to agree with the judges. Rumba wasn’t her dance. It’s my least favorite dance she’s done.
Maks is stubborn and his attitude won’t get him the MBT this season.
First time poster. I just want to thank the Pure DWTS crew. Since finding this website I don’t read comments anywhere else. You all work so hard for a great website and I appreciate it.
It also seems Derek can never win with the critics no matter what he does or says. I started watching DWTS midway through season 7 when I discovered the talent of Derek and I can honestly say he is the main reason I watch. Before I started watching I remember hearing about his outburst in season 5 and how he was raked over the coals for yelling at the judges, and then he was voted off the next week. Since then he has never talked back to them like that again. He rolls with the punches and proves himself through his work. Now, he speaks briefly saying that Maks over reacted and he is still raked over the coals. He was not disrespectful or mean to Maks in any way, he just didn’t agree with him, and Derek is the bad guy? How does that work? I honestly believe that Derek could run in front of a moving car to save a child and his critics would say he did it for the attention.
Either way, keep up the good work, Derek, and keep up the good work Pure DWTS. You guys are great!
Derek is a class act and a genius! Maks needs to calm down a bit. He was out of line!.
Good writeup. Jackie Gleason was hefty; Stubby Kaye, I think, was hefty, they could dance. I thought Lacey in the packages and the judges were trying to say: You’ve been a valiant competitor and are entertaining, others just dance better. Yes, Derek, Kym, Cheryl know how to go with the flow.
Good writeup. Jackie Gleason was hefty; Stubby Kaye, I think, was hefty, they could dance. I thought Lacey in the packages and the judges were trying to say: You’ve been a valiant competitor and are entertaining, others just dance better. Yes, Derek, Kym, Cheryl know how to go with the flow, yet be strong competitors.
Heidi: I hope your instinct is spot on about tonight’s elimination but, sadly, I don’t believe it will be. Still, fingers crossed. Would love to see the athlete with the attitude and her ass-hat partner take their final bows. Can I say that?
C’mon ….do y’all really think Maks would “unfollow” Louis and Derek. Why would he even be following them in the first place? They don’t seem to be “hang out together” friends like Maks and Tony are. I know most everyone here has a pretty low opinion of Maks, but how grade school is that.
I saw the video of Len, and he’s pretty much put last night behind him..He said he and Maks play golf together, and Maks is just one of those people who goes at everything full tilt. He said if Maks were a musician, he’d be a drummer.
He won’t change…love him or hate him. I’d like to see Hope stick around for a while, so I ‘ve got my fingers crossed that you’re wrong Evaine.
Auntie, I would LOVE to be wrong!
Yes, Auntie he did unfollow Derek – they have been following each other for a long time and Derek has frequently partied with Maks when they were both single. Including this season. They are (were?) very good friends. There are pictures of Maks and Val and other guys at Derek’s house just a few short weeks ago.
Perhaps Maks just wishes his co-workers would back him up and not be such pussies.
I’m sure many of you have bitched about the bosses (judges) at work with your co-workers, talked about confronting them, and then, someone has the balls to speak up while their co-workers turn their back and throw them under the bus. Been there, done that which is why I say GO MAKS!
Have watched it a few times now and I have to say I’m still with team Maks! As far as him not following Derek or Louie, you never know what really went on behind closed doors. Just my opinion.
This is show and people need to breathe in then out. I like this is show but its not my life. I got my gripes out last night. No need to keep saying the same thing over and over again. I just hope Nancy makes it through tonight after her breakthrough and the good dances being overshadowed by “drama”.
Perhaps maks should grow the fuck up and realize that if he chooses to behave that way he can expect disagreement. It’s called being an adult. If he is free to express his opinion like a bore, then others have the same freedom – although they certainly did it with a great deal more class.
It’s being pretty childish to just expect all your friends to just fall in line behind you like a bunch of sycophants who are working on YOUR show. THAT would make them pussies. Maks is the only one coming off badly here.
I missed the whole brouhaha. What did Derek (or anyone else) say? Can anyone give a synopsis before the show? I’d like to know the backstage dynamic when I’m watching tonight!
Heidi you’re really heated tonight. As soon as I realized what had happened I knew Hope/Maks Super stans would be writing their essays on this site. What Maks said to Len what inexcusable IMO Len is the only judges opinion I respect even when I disagree with it.
I get heated in response to people who’ve never been to the site coming in here and throwing shit around.
If you come on this site and use words like “pussies” to describe several people who simply spoke their minds JUST LIKE MAKS DID and I don’t recognize you as a regular? That’s called trolling and I’ll only take so much of it.
I don’t agree with what Maks said and how he acted last night at all. It’s natural for the pros to be protective of their celebs, but Maks was way out of line and acted like a dickhead. This is the Maks I remember with Brandy and Erin, whom I did not like at all.
This is supposed to be an entertainment show and I don’t want to see people being cursed at (Hope) and being rude (Maks to the judges). I might as well be watching the Jersey Shore… Hmm, Maks is from New Jersey right. =P
Derek and the some of the other pros would not have handled that situation like Maks did because they at one time or another have made the same mistake and learned from that lesson.
If this was all done for the sake of entertainment, well that’s fine.. but Maks still acted like a child.
Heidi, I’ve been reading this site since last season began and into the present. I have posted here before, but not as often. Not a Troll (people on the Internet throw that word out so freely).
I guess the cast of DWTS (except for Lacey) are too afraid of losing their jobs, so they won’t stand by their co-worker. Corporate Amerika at its best.
Watch the videos below. Maks commended his co-workers. Lacey spoke out about the judges. It isn’t all just Maks is the bad guy here, folks.
BTW, I am not really a “fan” of Maks. I like him, but I’m not “gah gah” over the guy. I’m a Derek fan. However, I like when people have the nerve to speak up and not be afraid of the consquences.
My point is – they spoke their minds just like Maks did. So, what’s the problem? You (and he) can’t have it both ways.
If they won’t fire Maks’ ass for acting like that – and they won’t – then Derek, Karina and others have nothing to be afraid of (Derek least of all). For that matter, Louis also disagreed with Maks, as did JR and Nancy – they have nothing to be afraid of either.
Yes, they all spoke their minds and have a right to do so. Maybe if the others had their partners being ripped every week, they would have lost it too. I think Maks had just finally HAD IT.
It’s just a reality tv show. I mean, who knows? The producers could be telling Maks and the others what to do to stir up drama. It’s been known to happen on another popular reality show. It’s no secret that they script these shows.
Once Louis disagreed with Maks, I felt totally justified in my assessment that Maks was out of line. He’s not one to hold back and, although I understand he has to look out for his personal interests, he was clear that judges may have been hard on Hope, but Maks was wrong, wrong, wrong. In my opinion, Maks is just a big kid.
Thanks for the response! I see patients all day and am not glued to twitter so I was curious about the commotion. I’m a Derek fan and wondered what he said about Maks’ comments and couldn’t find his comments on twitter this evening. Seems like only rude or provcative patrons are welcomed here and get a response.
Having some trouble posting right now so apologies if there are multiple posts:
Heidi, been looking forward to your numbers all day. Thanks! What a bloody mess. I just hope this whole thing doesn’t cause collateral damage with the unwarranted ouster of David, Rob or Nancy. That would be really unfortunate!
I’ve been a fan of Maks for a long time, and I’ve stood behind him when he’s gone a bit sideways before. As a reasoning being, I have to stop and think, “is this loyalty or foolishness.” Blind loyalty is foolishness for me. So after last night, I’m finished backing Maks this season. It’s the first time I’ve ever said that. It’s hard to say. If that makes me a fair-weather fan in the eyes of some Maks fans, then so be it. There’s plenty of truth and blame to go around. Point one finger, and there’s 4 pointing back at you, so I’m not going there. I still like Maks and I like what I’ve seen of Hope. They are NOT “bad” people no matter how some folks would like to paint them. I wish them all the best the rest of this season on DWTS and on whatever comes after.
It’s a glittery dance show, it’s just a glittery dance show.
Uncalled for Mary, especially when Derek’s comments are posted on the front page of this site for all to see.
See, you were rude and got a response! Guess you were right.
Okay, bottom two must be Maks/Hope and Lacey/Chaz, right? I don’t even get how Rob is still there; I thought he’d be the first one eliminated and since then I’ve been completely flummoxed as to whether or not he’ll go home each week.
Yep, wikipedia tells me that Maks/Hope and Lacey/Chaz are bottom two. This makes me sad because I don’t want either couple to go home. Okay, sad is a little strong since both couples seem so unhappy all the time but what the hell, a little hyperbole never hurt anyone, right?
Jo, Maks has a long, long history of the same old crap. This is nothing new. This time he said DWTS was his show in the heat of the moment, but he has said the very same thing in writing. Again, not a first. Chaz was the worst dancer, but Maks has the worst attitude of all of them, pros and dancers.
@Biffette – Actually it should have been a double elimination I think. Both couples seemed to be in misery. And after the backstage confessionals and everything else that happened, I am not sure the judges will be too happy with the remaining couple next week.
Well, with any luck next week Maks and Hope will have the Paso, which imo is well-suited for Hope.
Well, again, Maks was right about his comments backstage. I said it today at work before I even saw his comments – Chaz gets coddled and gets an A for personality while the others get ripped. Don’t get me wrong, I love chaz! But, it was time for him to go.
Again, I compare it to work. The gal who sits next to me gets coddled and our boss makes excuses for her because she’s cute, dippy, and pretends to be dumb. But, I get ripped because I’m too “intense” and “organized.” Argghhhhhh!!!
Well, I might agree with you Jo, if Hope was actually a great dancer that was getting judged unfairly – which she’s not. Hell, Chaz got worse comments last night than Hope did and they’ve overscored her more than once.
The judges have always been crazy, always. This is nothing new. Again, Maks should know that. I’ll keep dragging it back to that point every time.
I guess what I don’t understand is why so many are up on arms about this, Heidi? I mean, on here and other sites people complain about the judges, say they must be on something, and bash them. Many would love to say to them what Maks did.
NO, Hope is not a great dancer. She could be if she would learn to relax!
Yeah, I know you keep going back to that point about the judges and how the show is what it is. I’ve only watched since last season, but have watched Idol enough to know how ridiculous it all can be.
On another note, in one of the videos posted here, Lacey admitted that Maks just had the courage to say what “we all want to say but don’t have the courage to.”
Many people are up in arms because AGAIN Maks throws others under the bus, shows an extreme case of arrogance (and then tries to deny he even said it in the media), and was just completely unprofessional.
Lacey is Maks’ female counter part when it comes to being extremely self centered and arrogant. She was thinking that Chaz was underscored. Oh, she was right that Bruno was out of line with his animal comments, but SHE was the one smoking crack last night if she thought he deserved 8s and 9s, not the judges. She also was throwing Nancy under the bus in a big way.
Complain about the judges and what they say to your partner all you like – AFTER the show. Or hell, even during the show. But bringing other couples into it is classless and unprofessional. Telling Len to retire?? Assholery.
If I said half of what Maks said last night to my coworkers or people in a position to judge me I would have been fired. Maks will likely be rewarded.
Thanks for the response! Oops, I mean, thanks for the response, dammit!
I didn’t see Karina’s comments on Max’s debacle, but I think she and Derek have put their money where their mouths are as far as the ‘holding your tongue when you disagree’ philosophy goes. Yes, Karina’s face showed what she thought about Ralph Macchio’s scores last season, but she didn’t disrespect the judges or talk back at them, although she would have been much more justified in doing so (IMO) than Max was. Hope isn’t a great dancer.
Derek calmly expressed, in a different context, that he felt he and Riki were underscored last week–he did it respectfully, and shook it off–and it was in an interview, not during the show.
I like Max, although he is a hothead. But I disagree that he is back to ‘the old Max’ this season–I still see vestiges of the lighthearted Max we were introduced to last season–thank goodness.
I saw the OTRC interview, and George asked Karina about Maks & Len, and she slyly began talking about getting a shot for pain and focusing on dancing that night. He said, “I don’t think you understood what I meant.” Karina said something like, “I did, but I’m not going to answer that question.” Good for her
If Derek/Ricki & Karina/JR are team captains then maybe: Ricki, Hope, Rob and JR, Nancy, David. I can see Maks & Derek Tolerating each other esp. with Cheryl in the mix. SInce Kym & Tristan are “friends
” they’;; mesh well, and JR gets along with everyone. Nancy looks like she’s having fun, and wanting to try more stuff; I wouldn’t mind her on JR’s team
If they give Hope the samba……bye bye!