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Dancing With The Stars 17 Las Vegas Odds Going Into Week 8 —Hmmm, Interesting!

“I like to be against the odds.” ~Barry Bonds

Have you noticed the odds makers in Las Vegas have been wrong almost every week this Season (if you base it on a ranking)? Though this isn’t really anything new either, but, last season they seemed to nail it every week despite our protests. Then again, the odds are more of an overall prediction of who will win at the end (for what Courtney and Heidi are always good at explaining. It’s confusing. I know.). So, below are Sports Bovada’s new odds going into Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 8!! Note how the numbers have changed compared to the week before. They also have tied Brant and Jack in fourth with 16/1 odds which I think I agree with. Though I think Elizabeth should be tied with them with the same 16/1 odds too. The biggest change though is how they changed Leah’s odds from 100/1 to now 66/1. They also insist on giving Bill 100/1 odds again as in previous weeks. Though sadly, I have to say I think Bill’s time might be running out either this week or the next. So maybe these odds are correct this time? Though how I hope (again) it’s Leah to go first.

Corbin Bleu 6/5
Amber Riley 5/4
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Brant Daugherty 16/1
Jack Osbourne 16/1
Leah Rimini 66/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 5/4
Amber Riley 7/5
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Jack Osbourne 12/1
Brant Daugherty 16/1
Snooki 16/1
Bill Engvall 100/1
Leah Rimini 100/1

Heidi, Court…take it away….

Heidi: Well, technically, as someone who doesn’t know that much about betting…they aren’t really “wrong”, per se, as these are the odds to win the show. So, if their person with the lowest odds isn’t the one eliminated, then they are only wrong if their person that is the odds on favorite to win is the one eliminated. Otherwise, they just didn’t have long enough odds on the person eliminated. Courtney knows more about this than I do, but that’s the way I understand it. We are looking at is as a ranking, which I don’t know if that’s what the odds makers intended when they place the odds. Besides all that, I think they have it right in one respect – I think the judges will continue to do their best to ensure Bill is the next one to go. Whether they are successful or not depends heavily on the scores of the other people. Personally, I’m not sure why they have Leah so low, currently, since Jack hasn’t been scoring as well as Leah and seems to be fading to the background. Why does he get 16/1 and she gets 66? I personally think she’s not been worthy of better scores than Jack, but she has been getting them and I think she’ll continue to get them as long as Bill is around…possibly leaving the door open for Jack or Brant (or Liz or even Amber) to get eliminated. So, what are they seeing with regards to Leah? Who knows? All I do know is that we will probably see a meltdown of Hope Solo proportions when the judges DO get real on Leah…if they ever do.

Courtney: You are right about the odds – they are essentially just a prediction of how likely someone is to win, as opposed to being a “ranking” of who is the next to go. That being said – I tend to interpret it like this: the odds are how likely someone is to stay until the end of the competition – so if someone’s odds of staying until the end are low, then by extension, their odds of leaving sooner (rather than later) are probably high. And when you interpret it that way – it does sort of feel like a prediction of who might be the most likely to be eliminated next. So applying those thoughts to the situation at hand – I think Bill has made a strong showing these past few weeks, but he is getting rather hosed by the judges in comparison…and I don’t expect this coming week to be any different. The question is – can his viewer votes neutralize his crummy judges’ scores? One thing that struck me as I voted this week (and please forgive this brief segue away from the topic at hand), is that each week, we get fewer votes to work with per voting method – so unless people are motivated to create more accounts each week, as the weeks wear on, it gets harder and harder to pull a low-scoring couple out of a point deficit…and I’m sure the judges/PTB relish this fact, as it makes it easier for them to oust the “undesirables”. So while we may have done enough to keep Bill safe in previous weeks – it only gets harder each week. And I’m beginning to think the fact that there was no elim last week probably helped Bill to some extent, because it just created a huge points dump that made the margins a lot smaller. I hope I’m just being skeptical, but I’m preparing for the worst. As for Leah – ack. I can’t decide if it’s padded scores or just a lot of former fans of King of Queens or The Talk feeling nostalgic, but she has got to go – the sooner, the better. I’m beginning to think that there’s a very real possibility that, unless the judges stop drinking the Leah Remini “Anti-Scientology Not-a-Dancer” flavored Kool-Aid, she could end up bumping somebody out of the finale…and do you really want to see a freestyle out of her? Yikes 😯

Las Vegas Odds For Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 7

The odds makers have placed their new bets at Sports Bovada!! This time they’ve switched Brant and Snooki! They’ve also switched Leah and Bill! The numbers have changed some too….especially LEAH’S from 18/1 odds to now 100/1 odds!!!

Corbin Bleu 5/4
Amber Riley 7/5
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Jack Osbourne 12/1
Brant Daugherty 16/1
Snooki 16/1
Bill Engvall 100/1
Leah Rimini 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 3/2
Amber Riley 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 7/2
Jack Osbourne 14/1
Snooki 14/1
Brant Daugherty 18/1
Leah Remini 18/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

My thoughts: Finally, Leah is getting the odds she’s deserved since this season started. She’s just got to go this week. Though I was shocked to see Brant lowered on the list. I thought he and Peta’s dance was good last week (it’s also been one of my favorite dances of the season so far) and I’m even thinking he might be a dark horse now and not Jack? I don’t know…but, these new odds are exciting me a little more than in previous weeks. ➡ Though please, I hope Bill keeps proving the odds makers wrong!

Let’s see what Heidi and Court think?

Courtney: Well, I guess if they still think Bill has such sh*tty odds of winning, the next best thing is recognizing that someone else has equally sh*tty odds of winning – especially when said person is total Debbie Downer. 😛 The fact that we didn’t have an elim this past week has left me feeling a bit blind to how the votes are going – I like to think Bill is getting more votes than people think he is, but I really don’t know for sure. I’m a little puzzled by Jack being so high, since I think he’s been fading into the woodwork these past few weeks and hasn’t exactly gotten stellar scores – he’s done alright, but he hasn’t done great…and I think he’s running the risk of getting lost in the shuffle. Surprised Snooki isn’t higher – she seems to have done pretty well these past few weeks. As for the top of the pack – I think the judges are going to continue to push Elizabeth on us, to ensure that she makes the finale; I just worry that if they prop her up enough, she could end up displacing either Amber or Corbin for the 2nd place spot. I think Amber & Corbin deserve to be the last two standing (both in terms of dance skill and performance quality), but the very suspect behavior of the judges this past week makes me worry that they may tinker a bit too much in the finale – Len doesn’t like Amber, Carrie Ann & Bruno don’t seem too fond of Corbin, and all three heap praise on Liz. Please tell me I’m being paranoid in worrying about all this now 😛

Heidi: Sorry, you’re not being paranoid. 🙂 They haven’t really switched Brant and Snooki or Leah and Bill, they’ve lowered Snooki’s odds down to Brant’s and Leah’s down to Bill’s. Why they would give Leah a better shot than anyone, at this point, is beyond me. But I do think the top 3 is shaking out to be what they’ve got up there. The only thing I question is Jack’s placement so high. I agree with Courtney that he’s getting lost in the shuffle – through no fault of his or Cheryl’s. There are just bigger personalities. I think I would switch Snooki and Jack. If not for the judges seeming determined that Bill goes home, I would move him up the board a spot or two as well. But unfortunately, the judges scores do count and the writing seem to be on the wall for him. Maybe. 🙂 Let me take this opportunity to pimp my Dancing by the Numbers post which will be arriving in an hour or two. 😀

Las Vegas Odds For Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 6

Well, the Las Vegas Odds going into Week 6 of Dancing With The Stars Season 17 aren’t looking too different than last week. What’s disappointing though is that even after a great dance this past week, they continue to put Bill Engvall in last place with 100/1 odds, and yet, Leah is tied with Brant at 18/1 odds. Wha?? 😯 Below is more from Sports Bovada!!

Corbin Bleu 3/2
Amber Riley 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 7/2
Jack Osbourne 14/1
Snooki 14/1
Brant Daugherty 18/1
Leah Remini 18/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 3/2
Amber Riley 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 7/2
Christina Milan 8/1
Jack Osbourne 14/1
Snooki 14/1
Brant Daugherty 18/1
Leah Remini 18/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

My thoughts: Even though this is an overall forecast, I just hope this isn’t an indication of how things will play out next week? Bill has won over so many of our hearts from the beginning and he’s turned out to be a better dancer than many of us thought. I hope it’s Leah to go home next and that’s all I will say without sounding like I am on repeat. Oh yeah, and one more thing…. I think Elizabeth’s odds should be more in the 14/1 range.

Ok, let’s see what Heidi and Court think. Be sure to tell us what you think in comments as well.

Heidi: Well, it’s hard to say. When Christina was still in the competition, I said either she or Elizabeth were going to be the “shocking” elimination. Christina is now gone and it’s possible that Elizabeth could last longer because of that. Really hard to say. I think the top 2 are correct. After that? Well, I don’t think Bill is going home this week unless the seriously hose him on the scores. Leah, on the other hand, is clearly getting votes, because she beat a huge deficit and Christina went home instead of her. How huge? Numbers post is coming later. 🙂 I had late nights at work and didn’t feel like writing it until last night. Liz has been in jeopardy a couple times. Brant’s been in jeopardy at least once. These things are often predictive. I’m torn. It could really be between Bill, Leah, Brant and Snookie – who are the bottom four in ratings. So, I guess I agree with bottom four, but I’m not sure about the order.

Courtney: Not a whole lot to add that Heidi hasn’t already said – but I do worry that Snooki could be in some danger this week, due to the fact that it’s sounding like the east coast phone votes might get tossed as a result of Muppet idiocy. And while Leah may have gotten the votes to overcome Christina, I feel like some viewers might have jumped off the Leah bandwagon after her behavior this week – she seemed to rub a LOT of people the wrong way. Still think Bill has at least another week in him, but worry that the judges may start whittling out who they deem “the weaker dancers”, and may decide to hose him, Andy-style 🙁

DWTS Season 17 Las Vegas Odds Going Into Week 5

It’s that time again!! The new Las Vegas Odds have been posted for Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Week 5 at Sports Bovada!! Take a look below and let us know what you think….

Corbin Bleu 3/2
Amber Riley 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 7/2
Christina Milan 8/1
Jack Osbourne 14/1
Snooki 14/1
Brant Daugherty 18/1
Leah Remini 18/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 7/4
Amber Riley 5/2
Christina Milan 6/1
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Snooki 10/1
Brant Daugherty 12/1
Jack Osbourne 12/1
Leah Remini 16/1
Valerie Harper 66/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

My thoughts: This time the odds are looking a little more realistic to me. Though it pains me to see Bill Engvall in last again. I think he should be tied with Jack and Snooki instead. Leah should be LAST!!! As for the rest, I’m agreeing with their top five. I also think it’s so cool how Snooki has really started to make a mark now and she’s turned out to be so likable.

Let’s see what Heidi and Court think….

Courtney: They’re still really effin’ skeptical about Bill, aren’t they? Granted, I may have a bit of a bias, because I love the guy, but still – rewatching Monday night’s show, I daresay Bill won the evening…both with his performance and his reaction to being called safe. Bill was getting a LOT of love. On the flipside, Brant really did not have a good evening – he kinda got hosed by the judges, and then was one of the last ones standing during the elim…for the second week in a row. I would also argue, just based on some of the chatter here at Pure, that Christina may be in greater danger than the oddsmakers think, just based on the fact that she seems to rub many of us the wrong way – and that she doesn’t really seem to be the apple of the judges’ eyes the same way that Amber, Corbin, & Elizabeth are. Jack may also be in some danger as well, as he seems to be fading into the woodwork these past few weeks. Leah? As much as it pains me to say it (because I think she’s beyond snotty), I think Leah should actually be higher – the judges seem to be drinking the Leah Kool-Aid, and people actually seem to be voting for her in decent numbers. I think the top 3 are pretty much on-point – especially if Elizabeth continues to get shielded by the judges with some dubiously high scores.

Heidi: With Valerie gone, the judges may change their tune and start scoring everyone harder – including Leah, I hope, since I think she’s been propped a good bit. I tend to think that Bill isn’t out of the woods just yet, but I do think that he should be up with Brant and Leah at 18/1 – everything depends so heavily on the judges, who make up 50% of the result. At 14/1 Jack and Snooki are about right (although I hope Snooki continues to rise). Then there’s the top three – I think that’s about right also. The only other thing I see as possibly wrong is Christina. Her journey seems too familiar to me and I think she might be in trouble either this week or next, depending on the whims of the judges. Of course, I think Elizabeth could be in trouble with one bad dance also – as much as she seems like a very nice woman, that package last week and some other things she’s done might be a bit too weird for the casual viewer.

Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Las Vegas Odds For Week 4

The new Las Vegas Odds have been posted at Sports Bovada!! They are still picking Corbin Bleu for the win with Amber Riley close behind! Also, check out how they’ve tied Christina Milian and Elizabeth Berkley for 3rd. Give it up for Snooki as she has raised up the ladder the most compared to last week’s odds. But geez, if they can bet on Snooki, why not Bill Engvall too who they have placed last again. 😯 I sometimes don’t understand the odds makers?

Corbin Bleu 7/4
Amber Riley 5/2
Christina Milan 6/1
Elizabeth Berkley 6/1
Snooki 10/1
Brant Daugherty 12/1
Jack Osbourne 12/1
Leah Remini 16/1
Valerie Harper 66/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 2/1
Amber Riley 7/2
Christina Milan 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 13/2
Jack Osbourne 10/1
Brant Daugherty 12/1
Leah Remini 12/1
Snooki 12/1
Bill Nye 50/1
Valerie Harper 50/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

So, what do you think? Do you agree with the odds makers this time? Let us know in comments and let’s see what Heidi and Court think too…..

Courtney: Do they REALLY still think Valerie has a better chance of winning than Bill??? After this week??? I’d say the hammer kinda dropped on Valerie and Bill had a breakthrough week – I would think Bill’s stock would have gone up and Valerie’s would have plummeted to the bottom. God bless Valerie, she’s a joy and an inspiration to watch, but I think we’ve seen the best we’re going to see out of her – and even if she’s getting a ton of votes, if she’s also getting scores in the teens, her days are likely numbered on this show. Bill only seems to be gaining popularity & improving his scores – and while I wouldn’t put it past The Three Stooges/The Men Upstairs to try and backdoor Bill in order to save a dubious vote-getter (but better dancer) like Elizabeth, Christina, or Brant, I like to think they’re perhaps starting to see the value in keeping Bill around. Glad Snooki managed to leapfrog over Brant, but I don’t agree with Jack dropping – he had an off-week, yes, but I think Brant’s popularity is going to be rather fleeting – while Jack will likely have an appealing growth arc that peaks later this season, when it really counts. Not even gonna comment on the top 2 – already beginning to tire of the “Is it going to be Corbin or Amber who wins???” debate. And I think the oddsmakers are smoking crack if they think Elizabeth or Christina’s odds of winning are that good – particularly the former, who still seems to be failing to connect with viewers.

Heidi: Let me answer it for you, Courtney – Amber isn’t going to win. 🙂 I love Amber. I love her personality, I love her work ethic, I love her relationship with Derek…but I don’t believe she will win. She was dancing in low heels because she rolled her ankle, and now she’s having knee problems. Corbin may not be as popular from a fanbase standpoint, but he’s going to have the judges on his side. And how can he not? He and Elizabeth are the ringers of the season and he isn’t lacking the personality like Elizabeth is. I think, as long as Amber doesn’t seriously injure herself, the top 2 is probably right. I will be VERY disappointed if Bill and Snookie aren’t the next two in the line up. And I don’t think it’s out of the question. Liz and Christina might be ringers, but Snookie and Bill have heart and personality in spades. Not to mention their relationships with their partners. I still believe that either Christina or Liz (but probably not both) is going to be eliminated by week 6 or 7. This, of course, all depends on how heavy handed the judges are going to get to try to keep the better dancers around. They need to be careful though, or people will see the man behind the curtain, especially if Snookie and Bill continue to improve. I think Brant and Jack are up there after Snookie and Bill. The woman left standing after either Liz or Christina (leaning toward Christina at this point) is eliminated will likely snag 3rd or 4th place, shuffling the rest down a slot. 🙂

Dancing With The Stars Season 17 Las Vegas Odds Going Into Week 3

Oh, I am in agony as I read the new odds at Sports Bovada!! 🙁 I wish Bill Engvall was not placed last. I also don’t like how low they are putting Valerie. And again, I am just not feeling it with Leah Remini. How she could be getting 12/1 odds to win this season is beyond me? Crazy! Oh well, I’m going to take comfort knowing the odds makers were wrong in their placings last week even though I’m agreeing with their top 6 this week.

Corbin Bleu 2/1
Amber Riley 7/2
Christina Milan 7/2
Elizabeth Berkley 13/2
Jack Osbourne 10/1
Brant Daugherty 12/1
Leah Remini 12/1
Snooki 12/1
Bill Nye 50/1
Valerie Harper 50/1
Bill Engvall 100/1

Below are last week’s odds:

Amber Riley 2/1
Corbin Bleu 3/1
Elizabeth Berkley 11/2
Christina Milan 7/1
Snooki 15/2
Jack Osbourne 10/1
Brant Daugherty 14/1
Leah Remini 14/1
Valerie Harper 20/1
Keyshawn Johnson 33/1
Bill Engvall 100/1
Bill Nye 100/1

Let’s see what Miss Heidi and Court think. Please let us know what you think too in comments.

Courtney: Not a whole lot to say, except that I think Christina & Elizabeth still might be a bit too high – just judging from chatter amongst fans, these seem to be two contestants that may not be making a strong connection with viewers. Good dancers, sure – but I’m not sure they’re very memorable entertainers. Getting a sort of Audrina Patridge vibe off of Christina in particular – and a bit of a Chynna Phillips vibe off of Elizabeth. I think Valerie should maybe be a bit higher, too – I think her story will keep her around for awhile, possibly longer than Brant or even Jack. Don’t know what to make of Leah – I can’t decide if she’s getting a ton of votes or just enough to stay.

Heidi: I think one of the Christina/Elizabeth combo will go far, but one will be a shocking elimination, possibly in week 4. I don’t think there’s room for both of them, but once one of them is eliminated, the other could go to the finals. I could be wrong – lots hinges on the scoring and how badly the judges want them to stay. I also think that if Leah gets a crap score at some point and doesn’t have the protection she did last week, she could beat both those other ladies out the door. I’m seeing a lot of support for BOTH the Bills and now Brant and Peta are kissing in the parking lot, so some crazy women will fall for that and they’ll be fine. 🙂 For a while. Basically, I think the top four are right, minus EITHER Liz or Christina – I think one of those ladies’ spots might be taken from them by….Snicole. 🙂

PureDWTS Season 17 Las Vegas Odds Going Into Week 2

My, how the Las Vegas odds can change after the couples dance and that they do as we approach the 2nd episode of Dancing With The Stars Season 17. Note the odds makers at Sports Bovada are putting Amber Riley in first place now. The top four are the same but, just switched around a bit. They don’t have Valerie Harper in last. She’s moved up the list, but, I think she should be even higher? And Leah Remini? Well, I think she should be placed in the bottom three if not last. I’m just not feeling it? I was also a little shocked on Snooki’s odds being so high now? I think she should placed in the bottom four or five.

Below are last week’s odds:

Corbin Bleu 5/2
Christina Milan 13/4
Amber Riley 11/2
Elizabeth Berkley 11/2
Leah Remini 7/1
Snooki 8/1
Brant Daugherty 10/1
Keyshawn Johnson 10/1
Jack Osbourne 25/1
Bill Engvall 50/1
Bill Nye 50/1
Valerie Harper 50/1

So, what do you think? Do you agree with this week’s odds? Let see what Heidi and Courtney think. Let us know your thoughts too in comments.

Courtney: Ehhh…I’m not sure really what to think for this week, other than that Amber’s probably correct at the top with Corbin nipping at her heels, and Elizabeth & Christina following up behind. The rest is kind of murky for me – I doubt Bill is headed home this week, but I do think his novelty will wear off before long; I think Bill may have more longevity than we originally thought; and based on murmurings here – Leah’s days may be numbered. Brant, Jack, & Keyshawn are big question marks for me – I don’t think they’re doing terribly with votes, but I don’t think they’re doing fantastic with votes, either. Snooki & Valerie are somewhere between the top tier (Amber, Corbin, Elizabeth, & Christina) and the guys I have no clue about (Jack, Keyshawn, & Brant). I think things will become clearer come Monday, when we see the results of the first vote – beyond that, I’m just feeling discombobulated 😛

Heidi: I think they have the top five right…just not in that order. 🙂 As much as I love Amber and Derek, I really doubt that she’s going to win this thing. And that’s what these odds are – the odds to win. I still think that Corbin is going to take this, mainly because I think he’ll end up being good across both ballroom and latin (as he should be, being second only to Elizabeth in terms of ringerdom) and I’m not sure that Amber will be. Plus, I doubt anyone is going to let Derek get a 5th trophy AND Len’s bias will certainly come out shortly. If Snooki can reign it in a bit, I think she could edge Christina and Elizabeth out of the top three, based mainly on fanbase. I think one of those two (Christina and Elizabeth) could be a shocking elimination – I’m just not sure both of them can make the top 5. I guess we’ll see.

Dancing With The Stars Season 17 – Las Vegas Odds Before The Premiere

Awww, our first Las Vegas Odds post for Dancing With The Stars Season 17! Even without seeing our new couples dance yet on Dancing With The Stars, the odds makers have their bets in at Sports Bovada. Note how their top four include Corbin Blue, Christina Milian, and Amber Riley and Elizabeth Berkely. They have Bill Engvall, Bill Nye, and Valerie Harper tied for last place.

Corbin Bleu 5/2
Christina Milan 13/4
Amber Riley 11/2
Elizabeth Berkley 11/2
Leah Rimini 7/1
Snooki 8/1
Brant Daugherty 10/1
Keyshawn Johnson 10/1
Jack Osbourne 25/1
Bill Engvall 50/1
Bill Nye 50/1
Valerie Harper 50/1

My thoughts: The top four is looking reasonable to me with an exception to Keyshawn Johnson. I think he should be placed higher. I think Valerie Harper will do much better too. They should have her listed in the middle of the pack somewhere. I also think Brant Daugherty should be placed a little higher as well. It’s so hard to tell though without seeing them dance first! Thank goodness, it won’t be long until dance time. 🙂

Let’s see what Heidi and Courtney think and you let us know in comments what you think too…..

Courtney: I think Bill should be higher – I’m seeing a lot more buzz about him than I initially thought I would, and he’s got some dance background…so he may have some staying power. I would drop Leah and Brant down a bit – I just think Brant is less well-known and Leah seems to rub some people the wrong way, so they may struggle with votes. I would probably drop Jack down a bit, too – I’m not sure he’s going to hold the same “redemption” appeal that his sister did. As for the top – I think they have it ABOUT right, but I think Amber might have more of an edge than Christina – she’s more current, and she has Derek, who consistently brings out the best in his partners.

Heidi: I think the top four is right on target, not having seen any of them dance. Have to disagree with Vogue about Keyshawn, though – someone has to be on the bottom and I’m not sure this guy is into it. I guess we’ll see. I do think Valerie should be higher, toward the middle of the pack. I think Leah needs to come down and Bill Nye needs to go up some. I think he’s going to be underestimated in a big way. Jack Osborne?? No idea – I don’t think that kind of lightning hits one family twice, frankly. And part of that has to do with who your competition is, of course. We’ll have to wait and see how they all stack up against each other, but only one Kardashian could rise toward the top and I think only one Osborne will as well. And Kelly already has. I’d leave Snooki where she is, put Bill E at the bottom by himself, and move Brant down a bit as well. Being hot is no guarantee – just ask Aiden Turner. Or Ashley Hamilton. Or Mike Catherwood. Or Jack Wagner. 😀

Odds For DWTS Season 16 Finale, Zendaya And Kellie Pickler Neck And Neck

“Never let the odds keep you from doing what you know in your heart you were meant to do.” ~H Jackson Brown Jr.Orison Swett Mardenon on beating the odds

Our last Las Vegas Odds post for Dancing With The Stars Season 16! You ready? This time Sports Bovada has placed Zendaya and Kellie Pickler in ‘neck and neck’ odds for first and second place. Then in a little further down in third place is Aly Raisman and Jacoby Jones in 4th. Do you agree or disagree with this scenario? Do you think Zendaya is going to take it all or will Kellie or one of the others? Who is the dark horse? I tend to think JACOBY is the dark horse. Watch out for him to be explosive Monday night. I think Kellie will take it all with Jacoby placing second or even first? We will soon see, but, that’s where I’d put my bets and who I’m rooting for. I’m really liking Aly now too especially after her and Mark’s Afro Jazz dance.

So, below are the new odds:

Zendaya Coleman 2/3
Kellie Pickler 6/5
Aly Raisman 14/1
Jacoby Jones 20/1

Here are last week’s Las Vegas Odds to compare.

Zendaya Coleman 2/3
Kellie Pickler 13/10
Aly Raisman 12/1
Jacoby Jones 18/1
Ingo Rademacher 150/1

Let’s see what Heidi and Courtney think and be sure you let us know your thoughts and predictions too in comments….

Courtney: To be quite honest, I’m just kind of ready for this season to be over – and I find myself giving fewer and fewer hoots about who wins each week. 😛 I’m fully expecting Zendaya to get set up to win this thing, and I’m vacillating between them making it a neck-and-neck race with either Kellie or Aly…it SHOULD be Kellie, but they seem to have this love affair with Aly as of late, even though I still find her to be a total snooze to watch. I do think the freestyle round could be a make-or-break dance – even though I said the same thing last season, and the strongest freestyle didn’t win. I think Kellie & Jacoby could be the standouts in that round, although if Zendaya goes the hip-hop route and Aly goes the gymnastic route (and I think both are pretty likely), I’m guessing the judges are going to gush, regardless of how impressive the dances actually are. I’m worried that Jacoby is going to get lowballed, regardless of how well he actually dances, and that he may not be able to hope for anything better than 4th 🙁 I’d say he’d have the MBT in the bag in a regular season, but with the judges getting increasingly wonky each season, I don’t think that holds true anymore. All this manipulation makes me think it’s time to move on and blog something else…

Heidi: Word, Court. Do the odds makers have it right? Probably. Is that how it SHOULD be? No, but you don’t have to be a genius (or, actually, maybe you do 😀 ) to see the set up here. They LOVE them some Zendaya and Aly, yet Kellie isn’t emotionally connecting to Derek. Uh huh. Well, I guess it probably is easier to emotionally connect when you get to add a bit of hip hop to every dance and you don’t even have to wear ballroom shoes…or do the rumba. In any case – the truth (and the chances of the odds being right) will be in the scoring and the words they use to critique the dancers – not the actual dances themselves. What little weasel words will they use to tear anyone not named Zendaya down to try to manipulate the audience?? I think the key will be in how they score Jacoby, actually. They will either low ball him to keep him away from the trophy (which means that one or all of the ladies is getting enough votes to beat him if his score is low enough) OR they will score him about right and let the chips fall (which means he’s getting a ton of votes and it doesn’t matter how they score him). There are two things at play here – the judges ego/show credibility and TPTB vested interests. We MAY get to see which one is stronger. What I mean when I say “judges ego” – do you really think that any of those three want to come out on the wrong side of history?? They (and TPTB to a much lesser extent) want to be able to point and say “Look, the people pick the winner and we the judges were also right on target” – it’s ego. That’s why I say that if Jacoby is going to win *regardless* cuz he’s getting a ton of votes – they will score him appropriately, or maybe even a bit of an over score. However, if it is possible for someone else to win (Zendaya is really all they care about with Aly and Kellie a distant 2nd and 3rd, respectively), they will low ball Jacoby with the intent of one of the other three getting the trophy. Then the scoring of the other three comes into play. I suspect, thanks to her own fanbase and lots and lots of help from the producers all season, that Zendaya is getting a ton of votes. I think it’s an all or nothing thing with Jacoby, frankly – which leads me to think that the odds makers have it about right. Of course, the judges did put Jacoby in first place last week, AHEAD of two better dancers, so…foreshadowing??

The Odds Makers Switch DWTS Jacoby Jones And Aly Raisman, New Odds For Week 9

“Success is not measured by what you accomplish but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds.” ~Orison Swett Mardenon on beating the odds

Sports Bovada has posted their new odds for Dancing With The Stars. What do the odds makers think this week? Well, take a look below. Note: for the first time this season, they have placed Jacoby behind Aly. I don’t agree and I hope Jacoby makes a strong showing this week. I still think he is just as much of a force in this competition as Kellie and Zendaya? Don’t get me wrong, I like Aly as a person, but, why is Aly so over-rated and will the judges continue to overlook her and Zendaya’s faults while crucifying Kellie’s, Jacoby’s, and Ingo’s? Sad, and I’m not sure I’m ready for another week of this? ❓ 😕

So, below are the new odds:

Zendaya Coleman 2/3
Kellie Pickler 13/10
Aly Raisman 12/1
Jacoby Jones 18/1
Ingo Rademacher 150/1

Here are last week’s Las Vegas Odds to compare.

Zendaya Coleman 10/11
Kellie Pickler 1/1
Jacoby Jones 10/1
Aly Raisman 12/1
Ingo Rademacher 100/1
Sean Lowe 100/1

Let’s see what Miss Heidi and Court think. Be sure you let us know your thoughts and predictions too in the comments section.

Courtney: *shrug* Maybe it’s the fact that Andy is gone, maybe it’s the fact that voting (either to keep someone in the competition, or in the various Twitter contests) seems to be an exercise in futility, but I just find myself altogether apathetic about the odds (and really, the show in general) now. It doesn’t seem to matter how well any of the couples dance anymore – the praise/ridicule they get will have little to do with how they actually dance, and at the end of the day, the person that TPTB have a vested interest in winning, will win…and right now, it seems pretty clear to me that that’s Zendaya. And oddly enough, I’m beginning to wonder if they’re setting it up to be a close finish between Zendaya and Aly as the last two standing – double-whammy with the youngin’s, maybe? Lord knows…I just find myself puzzled by the gushing over Aly, considering that Kellie & Jacoby have far bigger personalities and Aly tends to come across rather bland. As for Kellie & Jacoby – if the Zendaya & Aly lovefest continues, I worry that they may not be able to hope for any better than 3rd & 4th place, respectively. I think Jacoby may unfortunately get picked apart for subpar technique, and Kellie may be collateral damage as a result of Len’s “there wasn’t enough content!” tirades. Ingo? He’ll be gone this week, unless they really lay into Jacoby…which is possible. I’m hoping that TPTB realize that they’re going to be better off having a good entertainer (Jacoby) in the finale, than another ABC family member who’s pretty marginal (Ingo). But as I said, I’m fully preparing myself to be let down by the finale, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost a fun contestant like Jacoby to make room for another ABC pimpee like Ingo. Just…blah.

Heidi: Read Derek’s blog and tell me what you think of what he says Len said to him when he and Kellie were in jeopardy. It does NOT give me faith that this ending won’t be totally manipulated, as opposed to just a bit manipulated as it’s been in the past. It would be funny if Zendaya and Aly split the vote, though, and either Kellie or Jacoby slipped in there. I just don’t get the Aly love fest either. I don’t think she touches either Kellie or Zendaya in talent nor Jacoby in FUN. The fact that I can barely bring myself to think about The Cheesecake should tell you how I feel about this season right now. They just have it SO set up to pimp Zendaya every step of the way. On Facebook, Kellie is wondering why she and Derek haven’t gotten an encore yet – good f*%king question, Kel. Aly’s had two and Zendaya’s had 2 or 3- if you count Team Paso. If that doesn’t tell you about the outcome of this show, nothing does. Lots of visual and audible cues that Zendaya and Aly are supposed to be winners. Some visual cues that Kellie is a winner, but then they hide her completely for a results show and then smack the crap out of Derek the week – giving the audience the BIG cue that Derek’s doing it wrong. Gotcha ABC. Congratulations, you’ve completely shredded ANY faith I had in you NOT fixing the actual outcome. I’ve been backing you up for years, saying you don’t care who wins. Guess Disney got you this season, eh??

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